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       #Post#: 30397--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: OldSeawolf
       Date: May 11, 2020, 3:54 pm
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       Greene will prob need to sit a year unless he gets a waiver.
       Olaniyi gone. 2 roster spots open now.
       #Post#: 30398--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Checkmate
       Date: May 11, 2020, 4:34 pm
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       I just don't see how guys can look at the year Yeboah had at
       Rutgers and not want a similar experience for themselves. I was
       stunned when GreatK said that Garcia wanted to stay – the allure
       is just too strong. And now Elijah, geez.
       I hope this is more a sign of the times than a sign of the
       current culture at SBU.
       #Post#: 30399--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 11, 2020, 4:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
       >
       > I just don't see how guys can look at the year Yeboah had at
       Rutgers and not want a similar experience for themselves. I was
       stunned when GreatK said that Garcia wanted to stay – the allure
       is just too strong. And now Elijah, geez.
       >
       > I hope this is more a sign of the times than a sign of the
       current culture at SBU.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If this really is the sign of the times then mid major
       conferences are done. Just close down and forget about
       Basketball. I think what is going in right now is more than
       that. I knew Elijah was going to leave..
       #Post#: 30400--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: guest369
       Date: May 11, 2020, 4:47 pm
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       It’s absolutely criminal that New York has no public Power 5
       schools... but that’s a rant for another time.
       Elijah wiped his Instagram clean. Should have known by the way
       that they were all celebratory of Yeboah’s accomplishments at
       Rutgers.
       I don’t know how you fix this issue without moving out of the
       doldrums of the America East. It’s a miracle Jameel didn’t leave
       now.
       #Post#: 30401--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: OldSeawolf
       Date: May 11, 2020, 5:43 pm
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       Garcia is no Yeboah. Although different types of players,
       Olaniyi is not of the same caliber as Yeboah either, IMO.
       Olaniyi’s decision is purely one of economics I’m guessing. He’d
       rather play in Europe now rather than risk sticking around for a
       potential non-season, and lose a season to inactivity. I’m sure
       he’s not graduating in 3 years and grad transferring. With
       Garcia, I’m willing to bet that Pikiell poached him. On that
       loaded Rutgers team, he’ll come off the bench for 10-12 mins per
       game, no more. He won’t get any decent minutes anywhere above
       the A10 level imo. I hope he doesn’t wind up regretting the lure
       of Yeboah’s move. He’d be a first-teamer this year in the AE,
       and that might be better for his resume than bench minutes in a
       higher profile program.
       #Post#: 30402--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: May 11, 2020, 5:57 pm
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       updated- can someone asterisk the redshirts?
       guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
       slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne, habwe
       bigs: christie, policelli
       redshirt: greene
       #Post#: 30403--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 12, 2020, 6:03 am
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       --- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
       >
       > Garcia is no Yeboah. Although different types of players,
       Olaniyi is not of the same caliber as Yeboah either, IMO.
       Olaniyi’s decision is purely one of economics I’m guessing. He’d
       rather play in Europe now rather than risk sticking around for a
       potential non-season, and lose a season to inactivity. I’m sure
       he’s not graduating in 3 years and grad transferring. With
       Garcia, I’m willing to bet that Pikiell poached him. On that
       loaded Rutgers team, he’ll come off the bench for 10-12 mins per
       game, no more. He won’t get any decent minutes anywhere above
       the A10 level imo. I hope he doesn’t wind up regretting the lure
       of Yeboah’s move. He’d be a first-teamer this year in the AE,
       and that might be better for his resume than bench minutes in a
       higher profile program.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We could sit here and ponder all day long why Stony brook
       basketball lost most of it's team recently, and blame the
       outside forces. Athletes come to get an education and o yeah,
       play basketball for free. Last I checked stony brook academics
       is pretty good and you will go places in this world with this
       diploma. What I don't get is how a few people on this forum
       thinks athletes are leaving for different reasons besides a
       coaching problem. Clearly, something is going on behind closed
       doors, and athletes are seeing it. Coach Ford will turn out to
       be the worst BB coach this university has ever seen. Kids are
       leaving in droves because off Geno Ford. What is there not to
       see?? Dont blame the economy. Dont blame the NCAA blame the
       athletics dept for allowing this to happen. This crap didn't
       happen when Pikiell case here.
       #Post#: 30404--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: OldSeawolf
       Date: May 12, 2020, 6:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
       >
       > [quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=846.msg30401#msg30401
       date=1589236990]
       > Garcia is no Yeboah. Although different types of players,
       Olaniyi is not of the same caliber as Yeboah either, IMO.
       Olaniyi’s decision is purely one of economics I’m guessing. He’d
       rather play in Europe now rather than risk sticking around for a
       potential non-season, and lose a season to inactivity. I’m sure
       he’s not graduating in 3 years and grad transferring. With
       Garcia, I’m willing to bet that Pikiell poached him. On that
       loaded Rutgers team, he’ll come off the bench for 10-12 mins per
       game, no more. He won’t get any decent minutes anywhere above
       the A10 level imo. I hope he doesn’t wind up regretting the lure
       of Yeboah’s move. He’d be a first-teamer this year in the AE,
       and that might be better for his resume than bench minutes in a
       higher profile program.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We could sit here and ponder all day long why Stony brook
       basketball lost most of it's team recently, and blame the
       outside forces. Athletes come to get an education and o yeah,
       play basketball for free. Last I checked stony brook academics
       is pretty good and you will go places in this world with this
       diploma. What I don't get is how a few people on this forum
       thinks athletes are leaving for different reasons besides a
       coaching problem. Clearly, something is going on behind closed
       doors, and athletes are seeing it. Coach Ford will turn out to
       be the worst BB coach this university has ever seen. Kids are
       leaving in droves because off Geno Ford. What is there not to
       see?? Dont blame the economy. Dont blame the NCAA blame the
       athletics dept for allowing this to happen. This crap didn't
       happen when Pikiell case here.
       [/quote]
       Hammer, I respect your opinion, and perhaps there is some
       underlying coach stuff going on; I dunno.  This grad transfer
       fad is a recent phenomenon - not saying that it didn't exist,
       but it is being used way, way more than just a few years ago.
       It's a trend that I wish didn't exist.  And if we in fact see a
       resurgence of the virus this fall, there's no denying that the
       college athletics landscape will never ever be the same.  Bottom
       line though, the kids have to do what they think is best for
       them.  The lure of the big programs and ultimate $ is wooing a
       lot of these kids.  To me, it's a false lure in many cases.
       #Post#: 30405--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: sbu1991
       Date: May 12, 2020, 9:48 am
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       --- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
       >
       > updated- can someone asterisk the redshirts?
       >
       > guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
       > slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne, habwe
       > bigs: christie, policelli
       > redshirt: greene
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think Green and Habwe are both sitting out for a year. I also
       think SB has two more scholarships to offer.
       Great opportunity for TPP and TSM to step up, as for now likely
       now both are starters.
       #Post#: 30406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: May 12, 2020, 10:06 am
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       hard to keep up!
       guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
       slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne
       bigs: christie, policelli
       redshirt: greene, habwe
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