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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Chrissy D.
Date: September 15, 2019, 4:52 pm
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Let the kids have fun, thats what college is about
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: September 15, 2019, 8:07 pm
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--- Quote from: Campi47 link ---
>
> I feel the steering committee is trying to move SBU to the FBS
DI level instead of having them be very good at this level.
Recruiting has gotten better but we are better off playing
schools like UCONN instead of Oregon or Utah State
>
> Build a fan base starting with the students then the community
next then all of LI then the 5 boroughs
>
> At the Utah State game it was their first home game and they
had every incoming freshmen to the school come into the field go
to a section and watch the game it was awesome to see
>
> Have door prizes for the students
>
> There should be at every home game at least 5 HS Football
Teams in attendance
>
> For games that are away but can be reached by Bus bring a few
Bus loads of students and give them a good deal
>
> Most importantly give the students their tailgating back where
it was
>
--- End Quote ---
yes, yes, yes, and yes
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: guest369
Date: September 15, 2019, 9:42 pm
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Yeah, I definitely agree that Athletics is making a huge mistake
by prioritizing short-term economic benefits over cultivating
the long-term fan base. I’ve been told that tailgating hasn’t
even been officially banned, they’re just not allowed to do it
in the main lot this year because that’s where the barbecue is
going to be (which of course they’re charging a lot for). The
kids don’t want to tailgate at the LIRR and then walk all the
way to LaValle from there. The kids are supposed to be the
lifeblood of the school, and last night’s show was completely
embarrassing.
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: September 16, 2019, 4:54 am
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--- Quote from: Campi47 link ---
>
> I feel the steering committee is trying to move SBU to the FBS
DI level instead of having them be very good at this level.
Recruiting has gotten better but we are better off playing
schools like UCONN instead of Oregon or Utah State
>
> Build a fan base starting with the students then the community
next then all of LI then the 5 boroughs
>
> At the Utah State game it was their first home game and they
had every incoming freshmen to the school come into the field go
to a section and watch the game it was awesome to see
>
> Have door prizes for the students
>
> There should be at every home game at least 5 HS Football
Teams in attendance
>
> For games that are away but can be reached by Bus bring a few
Bus loads of students and give them a good deal
>
> Most importantly give the students their tailgating back where
it was
>
--- End Quote ---
I am not so sure if they are eyeing the FBS. I had a
conversation with SH 2 years ago about that and he laughed and
said. " WE need to win our conference first before even looking
at the FBS", and he is right!
SB will need to upgrade LaValle stadium and add more seating to
even be considered for FBS status. And what about the 26 more
scholarships they would have to shell out. I dont think SB has
that kind of fan base to support 15K people or the funds to
support the program. What you are witnessing here is just poor
decisions by the upper chair people. They obviously don't have a
clue with respect to building a larger audience, which starts
with their own student fans.. They are just focusing on making
money, hence, open alcohol sales inside the stadium..
When I was at the game this past Saturday I saw plenty of room
between the new dome and the back of the north concession stands
to host the BBQ for Homecoming. Why not do it there??
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Tml
Date: September 16, 2019, 7:04 am
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
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> I swear, I though in 2012 than when we beat Colgate
(homecoming) and saw the students rush the field we were
building something great. The following week we beat ARMY at
West Point. Ever since then we have been deconstructing the
College football atmosphere at Stony Brook.
>
--- End Quote ---
Amazingly, Army has gone on to become a team every Power 5 team
fears playing. Last year, a they took Oklahoma to OT before
losing at Oklahomaand the same this year at Michigan. Army was
an FBS dormat in 2012. Why can't SB improve in FCS the way Army
did in FBS?
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: September 16, 2019, 7:40 am
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maybe what happened here is the admin thought, well if the
students arent going to form a significant % of the fan base,
then we may as well concentrate on the locals, donors, families,
etc. i guess what im saying is, why expend the effort if few
students are on campus, and even those won't show up in any
meaningful #s.
i'm also not as critical of the admin as some of you guys are,
i'm more deferential. but i think that the general idea of a
college football atmosphere starts with the students. it's hard
enough to get them to games. now we are making the gameday
experience harder (?).
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: September 16, 2019, 8:49 am
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--- Quote from: Tml link ---
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> [quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=788.msg27630#msg27630
date=1568574855]
> I swear, I though in 2012 than when we beat Colgate
(homecoming) and saw the students rush the field we were
building something great. The following week we beat ARMY at
West Point. Ever since then we have been deconstructing the
College football atmosphere at Stony Brook.
>
--- End Quote ---
Amazingly, Army has gone on to become a team every Power 5 team
fears playing. Last year, a they took Oklahoma to OT before
losing at Oklahomaand the same this year at Michigan. Army was
an FBS dormat in 2012. Why can't SB improve in FCS the way Army
did in FBS?
[/quote]
It all comes down to recruiting and the university doing the
recruiting. Stony Brook is not known for its football so really
good athletes wont consider SB when offers are being thrown
their way. Even if SB were to make that move up to the FBS
level. I still dont see star players wanting to play here. Just
look at UMAS and UCONN. Outside of BC and Syracuse the North
East is a hard sell for high school greats.
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Tml
Date: September 16, 2019, 9:16 am
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Actually, Army is a hard sell too. There's the four year
commitment, rigorous academics, required extracurricular
activities and an isolated location.
It's actually your biggest complaint about SB football that
turned Army's program around - a coaching change. When Monken
was hired in 2014 he did a total rebuild, which took two years,
and it has worked well.
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Wolffan
Date: September 16, 2019, 10:07 am
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Attendance at 5700. Would like to think there is more interest
in the game v Fordham and certainly many Fordham alums in the
area so I think 9K should be doable (providing the weather is
good).
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Re: 2019 G3: STONY BROOK vs. Wagner 6pm SNY
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: September 16, 2019, 10:21 am
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weve done the math on this forum before. happy to hear
corrections as these are mere shots in the dark.
lavalle holds 12.3k
assume 500 parents/friends
4k locals, donors
500 alums
500 staff, faculty, admin, athletics, etc
maybe 500 students
other?
and that's 6000. with conservative estimates (meaning, larger
#s than i really think in reality).
that leaves 6300 seats. we all know they count tickets, not
bodies.
options remaining to fill those seats:
-the over 10k students living on/around campus (not even there
by thursday night)
-more locals sitting in traffic on nicholls road when they can
instead watch B1G games on national TV
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