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UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: June 22, 2019, 3:42 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1142449363941253122?s=21
HTML https://www.nhregister.com/uconn/article/Is-UConn-heading-back-to-the-Big-East-14030270.php
This could be it guys. This could be the domino that starts it
all into motion for SBU to move up in conferences. Either to FBS
or a better basketball conference at worst.
There's no shortage of options for the AAC at this point as they
will not allow UConn to keep their football in The American, so
the most likely option is they either backfill with a football
only member (Army, BYU, or Boise State), or barring that, they
take an an all-sports backfill which could be anybody. Buffalo,
ODU, UAB, Western Kentucky, Colorado State... they truly have
endless options. What this ultimately means for SBU is that
there will be shuffling all over that will open up a spot or two
for SBU somewhere. That's what we're banking on. There's also a
non-zero chance this doesn't impact us much at all. In any case,
I hope Shawn has his phone nearby all weekend, because this
could get interesting.
#Post#: 27178--------------------------------------------------
Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: iBOsbu Date: June 22, 2019, 7:27 pm
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This is a smart move from UConn. They are a bball school and
finally recognized it. Bball program was going down trying to
chase football money. Good for them. Hopefully they will be
relevant again.
I don’t think it will have a trickledown effect. Big East
will be happy with 11 teams, 20 game schedule. AAC will find a
much better football school that will contribute unlike UConn
football.
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Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: Wolffan Date: June 22, 2019, 8:10 pm
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If UConn is smart they'd pull out all stops to follow the
Villanova model (Big East and CAA for football). Not saying it
is possible or that the hardcore UConn football fans - the few
that there are - would love it.
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Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: June 22, 2019, 9:22 pm
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[quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=777.msg27178#msg27178
date=1561249668]
This is a smart move from UConn. They are a bball school and
finally recognized it. Bball program was going down trying to
chase football money. Good for them. Hopefully they will be
relevant again.
I don’t think it will have a trickledown effect. Big East will
be happy with 11 teams, 20 game schedule. AAC will find a much
better football school that will contribute unlike UConn
football.
[/quote]
There's always a trickle down effect with realignment though.
Unless they grab a current independent as a football only
member(Army, BYU, or UMass) there are going to be trickle down
effects. The front runners I'm seeing mentioned most right now
are:
Buffalo (MAC)
Old Dominion (CUSA)
UAB (CUSA)
Southern Miss (CUSA)
Each of these are being mentioned as all-sports additions and
don't make sense otherwise. What that would do is open up a spot
for a school in the conference that got raided as none of these
conferences could keep their conference championship game in
football without backfilling under current rules. If it's a CUSA
school that goes to the American, it's basically a done deal
that JMU would be the backfill addition. In that case JMU is out
of CAA football and the conference is wide open once again.
If Buffalo gets the spot, there's speculation all over that we
could be the school chosen to replace them in the MAC. Would the
MAC do that? Who knows. I doubt they go for Umass after last
time. I speculate that Marshall would leave CUSA for the MAC if
invited, but that's just my opinion. Illinois State would also
get a look. In any case, I expect Shawn's phone to be ringing
profusely over the coming days and weeks as we're certainly on
the radar of several of these conferences.
Another interesting twist in all of this is what if Uconn isn't
the only school the Big East adds? St. Louis and/or Dayton have
been rumored to the Big East for a while. VCU could go to the
AAC too. If they all leave the A10, it's not out of the question
that we get a look to plug a hole there (Vermont, Albany, and
others would get looks too). That wouldn't get us to FBS, but it
would certainly get us out of the AE which would be a welcome
change. This conference gets no respect.
No matter how this breaks, expect ALOT of conference movement
being announced over the coming weeks as schools sort this stuff
out. I'd be frankly shocked if this doesn't impact SBU in some
way shape or form.
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Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: Chairman of the Board Date: June 22, 2019, 10:56 pm
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what does crazy eddie think about all this?
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Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: ecasadoSBU Date: June 23, 2019, 12:16 am
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[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=777.msg27181#msg27181 date=1561262207]
what does crazy eddie think about all this?
[/quote]
this has no impact for Stony Brook. That's the way I see it. We
are too low in the ladder to even feel any domino effect from
this move.
Nonetheless, I have followed UConn MBB/WBB for a while now (wife
is UConn grad) so I'm very excited to see UConn back in the Big
East
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Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: June 23, 2019, 1:15 pm
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[quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=777.msg27182#msg27182
date=1561267019]
[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=777.msg27181#msg27181 date=1561262207]
what does crazy eddie think about all this?
[/quote]
this has no impact for Stony Brook. That's the way I see it. We
are too low in the ladder to even feel any domino effect from
this move.
Nonetheless, I have followed UConn MBB/WBB for a while now (wife
is UConn grad) so I'm very excited to see UConn back in the Big
East
[/quote]
That's fundamentally not true. Depending on how the dominoes
fall, at the bare minimum it means JMU could be gone to FBS.
That would certainly open up the CAA for SBU to potentially win
as we finished 2nd in 2017 and 3rd last year. This year will be
very much a rebuilding year for us, but who is to say we can't
win the CAA in 2020 if JMU is gone? And that's the LEAST of what
could happen.
If Buffalo leaves the MAC to join the AAC, the MAC will look to
replace them. Who do you think they're going to look at? We've
had talks with the MAC in the past. Trust me guys, this move IS
going to impact SBU one way or another. I haven't even discussed
the non-football side to this yet. If the Big East takes St.
Louis to go with UConn, and/or the AAC takes VCU, you don't
think the A10 would consider backfilling those losses?
What Uconn did yesterday definitely opens the door for us to
make a move somewhere. We just need to see how the conference
chooses to respond to the Uconn departure first. Very
interesting times are ahead of us gentlemen.
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Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: iBOsbu Date: June 23, 2019, 5:21 pm
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UConn would most likely go independent in football following
UMass example. Bad example should I say? May be UConn and UMass
downgrade to FCS and join CAA... lol
#Post#: 27195--------------------------------------------------
Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: ecasadoSBU Date: June 25, 2019, 1:31 am
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=777.msg27188#msg27188
date=1561313738]
[quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=777.msg27182#msg27182
date=1561267019]
[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=777.msg27181#msg27181 date=1561262207]
what does crazy eddie think about all this?
[/quote]
this has no impact for Stony Brook. That's the way I see it. We
are too low in the ladder to even feel any domino effect from
this move.
Nonetheless, I have followed UConn MBB/WBB for a while now (wife
is UConn grad) so I'm very excited to see UConn back in the Big
East
[/quote]
That's fundamentally not true. Depending on how the dominoes
fall, at the bare minimum it means JMU could be gone to FBS.
That would certainly open up the CAA for SBU to potentially win
as we finished 2nd in 2017 and 3rd last year. This year will be
very much a rebuilding year for us, but who is to say we can't
win the CAA in 2020 if JMU is gone? And that's the LEAST of what
could happen.
If Buffalo leaves the MAC to join the AAC, the MAC will look to
replace them. Who do you think they're going to look at? We've
had talks with the MAC in the past. Trust me guys, this move IS
going to impact SBU one way or another. I haven't even discussed
the non-football side to this yet. If the Big East takes St.
Louis to go with UConn, and/or the AAC takes VCU, you don't
think the A10 would consider backfilling those losses?
What Uconn did yesterday definitely opens the door for us to
make a move somewhere. We just need to see how the conference
chooses to respond to the Uconn departure first. Very
interesting times are ahead of us gentlemen.
[/quote]
Hmmm. I don't see anything happening for SBU to be honest. I
don't see any FBS conference calling SBU to make the jump. Also,
SBU committing to a more expensive FBS football (i.e: MAC) with
marginal returns doesn't make much sense to me right now, at
least until we can draw 12-15k fans at LaValle. Any move right
now would be a mistake in my opinion.
Also, I don't think the Big East will push to add a 12 member.
It doesn't have to. It can stay at 11 and play a double RR -20
games. 20 games is the trend at the major conferences. UConn is
exactly what they need to please the FOX partners and guarantee
a large crowd at MSG every March.
Why would the AAC add Buffalo? If anything I'm thinking that the
AAC will look to the South to replace UConn. Or perhaps they may
end up realizing no one out there adds value to the conference
and simply stay at 11. I feel bad for Temple stuck in an island
In regards to the MAC: They should probably negotiate with
UMass/UConn and bring them as football-only partners.
#Post#: 27198--------------------------------------------------
Re: UConn to join the Big East in 2020
By: guest369 Date: June 25, 2019, 11:44 am
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My question is why the hell did Buffalo ever get an FBS invite
in the first place? After moving up from D3 to I-AA, they went
21-45 with just one winning season. Basketball was also
middling. By merit, they never deserved their place in the MAC.
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