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#Post#: 25872--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: February 24, 2019, 8:35 am
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
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> what exactly did i miss?
>
> and is cornish our MIP? thoughts?
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If you're talking about flagrant, you can watch ESPN3 replay at
17:49 left in 2nd half.
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Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: guest282
Date: February 24, 2019, 11:34 am
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--- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
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> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=756.msg25869#msg25869 date=1551015910]
> what exactly did i miss?
>
> and is cornish our MIP? thoughts?
>
--- End Quote ---
If you're talking about flagrant, you can watch ESPN3 replay at
17:49 left in 2nd half.
[/quote]
Saw the replay last night. I don't think Otchere was trying to
wipe the Maine player out, but at the same time, he hit the
Maine player on the back of his elbow (with no chance of
blocking the shot), and because of his momentum, ran thru the
Maine player. Maybe not a dirty play, but very reckless. And
while the injury was bad enough, it could have been much worse.
I doubt anyone is going to agree, but I think Otchere should be
suspended a game. In fact, if I was Boals, I would not wait for
the AE's decision.
#Post#: 25876--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: February 24, 2019, 11:53 am
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I’m going to agree with you avmsbu. If it had happened in
reverse to one of our guys, we’d be livid. Reckless is the
operative word here; not intentional. Btw, I like your idea of
Mac and Cornish on the floor at the same time, especially with
Latimer struggling.
#Post#: 25877--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: Seawolf97
Date: February 24, 2019, 11:59 am
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Our guys tend to play out of control at times and not just
Otchere . Latimer, Cornish and Moore get ahead of themselves and
can cause problems at times . A one game suspension is
appropriate for last night . At some point you have to back
off on defense because of potential injuries .
#Post#: 25896--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: sbufan
Date: February 25, 2019, 10:03 pm
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--- Quote from: avmsbu link ---
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> [quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=756.msg25872#msg25872
date=1551018937]
> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=756.msg25869#msg25869 date=1551015910]
> what exactly did i miss?
>
> and is cornish our MIP? thoughts?
>
--- End Quote ---
If you're talking about flagrant, you can watch ESPN3 replay at
17:49 left in 2nd half.
[/quote]
Saw the replay last night. I don't think Otchere was trying to
wipe the Maine player out, but at the same time, he hit the
Maine player on the back of his elbow (with no chance of
blocking the shot), and because of his momentum, ran thru the
Maine player. Maybe not a dirty play, but very reckless. And
while the injury was bad enough, it could have been much worse.
I doubt anyone is going to agree, but I think Otchere should be
suspended a game. In fact, if I was Boals, I would not wait for
the AE's decision.
[/quote]
Agree about the suspension. I don't think there was any
malicious intent, I think you just have to do it to show that
you care.
#Post#: 25897--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: sbufan
Date: February 25, 2019, 10:05 pm
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--- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
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> I’m going to agree with you avmsbu. If it had happened in
reverse to one of our guys, we’d be livid. Reckless is the
operative word here; not intentional. Btw, I like your idea of
Mac and Cornish on the floor at the same time, especially with
Latimer struggling.
>
--- End Quote ---
Oh and I also really like the Mac and Cornish on the floor at
the same time too. As others have noted, our guys have been
playing out of control at times, and i think Mackenzie is pretty
reliable to not make mistakes and settle things down.
#Post#: 25898--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: February 26, 2019, 5:09 am
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If Otchere sits out UMBC will explode on Offense. I have a hunch
coach B will site him out just to save face. With Latimere still
playing with his shorts and worrying about his appearance, he
will not be contributing any more points this season. I say this
because latimere was influential for a lot of SB OOC wins in the
early part of the season. That is no longer the case. He cannot
be counted on to score meaningful minutes anymore this season.
Because of this, SB 55- UMBC 70..
#Post#: 25901--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: sbufan
Date: February 26, 2019, 9:35 am
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Rewatching the Fleming play, it's incredible how fast Otchere
was closing ground on Fleming. If he had room for another step
or two he would have had Fleming beat. I'm sitting in the stands
thinking why didn't he just let him go, but he nearly made an
incredible play. It's a tough situation.
#Post#: 25903--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: February 26, 2019, 10:43 am
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--- Quote from: sbufan link ---
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> Rewatching the Fleming play, it's incredible how fast Otchere
was closing ground on Fleming. If he had room for another step
or two he would have had Fleming beat. I'm sitting in the stands
thinking why didn't he just let him go, but he nearly made an
incredible play. It's a tough situation.
>
--- End Quote ---
This was another game among most every one this year I could not
attend live, but also watched the replay recently. I know, too,
a lot of buzz from across the hall in the discussion about the
play with opinions that Otchere should be suspended, maybe for
the rest of the year, dirty play, etc. And I know, too, from
over there that a lot probably comes from a never-ending hatred
for all things SBU (which I find laughingly odd in basketball
because, let's be honest, SBU never...except once of
course...ruins everyone else's season and goes dancing...).
But I don't think it was a purposefully dirty play by Otchere.
At the worst, maybe stupid or ill-advised, but not too sure of
that either.
Of course replay (and slowing down/stopping) is not real life in
the moment, and at that moment in time looked to me like a huge
hustle play to nearly meet Fleming at the basket and then that
flash of a decision to go for the block. Of course a good player
is always keyed to hustle and make a stop if possible, and that
was for sure the starting point of decision for Otchere. After
that, I think it was a moment of instinct to not launch to
block, to pull back. And from there it looks to me momentum
carried over, he did impact Fleming (although I don't see a
purposeful undercut or push as others claim they see), and it
was just a bad situation from there.
Of course you might think, with careful consideration, that SBU
was up big at that point so just let the guy go. That probably
would have been the right decision, but for those of us who have
seen Otchere all year you probably have to add the element of
inexperience and aggressiveness into the mix (obviously the
foundation of his often foul-prone games).
In the end it still was an ugly play, and a bad outcome for
Fleming that could have been worse and thankfully wasn't.
Despite my own opinion that Otchere did not do this on purpose,
simply considering the ugliness of the play I could imagine a
one-game suspension as being appropriate. Maybe just one of
those things you gotta do and move on. Guess we'll see.
#Post#: 25904--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 28: vs. Maine 2/23 7pm
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: February 26, 2019, 11:19 am
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--- Quote from: Moveitfred link ---
>
> [quote author=sbufan link=topic=756.msg25901#msg25901
date=1551195309]
> Rewatching the Fleming play, it's incredible how fast Otchere
was closing ground on Fleming. If he had room for another step
or two he would have had Fleming beat. I'm sitting in the stands
thinking why didn't he just let him go, but he nearly made an
incredible play. It's a tough situation.
>
--- End Quote ---
This was another game among most every one this year I could not
attend live, but also watched the replay recently. I know, too,
a lot of buzz from across the hall in the discussion about the
play with opinions that Otchere should be suspended, maybe for
the rest of the year, dirty play, etc. And I know, too, from
over there that a lot probably comes from a never-ending hatred
for all things SBU (which I find laughingly odd in basketball
because, let's be honest, SBU never...except once of
course...ruins everyone else's season and goes dancing...).
But I don't think it was a purposefully dirty play by Otchere.
At the worst, maybe stupid or ill-advised, but not too sure of
that either.
Of course replay (and slowing down/stopping) is not real life in
the moment, and at that moment in time looked to me like a huge
hustle play to nearly meet Fleming at the basket and then that
flash of a decision to go for the block. Of course a good player
is always keyed to hustle and make a stop if possible, and that
was for sure the starting point of decision for Otchere. After
that, I think it was a moment of instinct to not launch to
block, to pull back. And from there it looks to me momentum
carried over, he did impact Fleming (although I don't see a
purposeful undercut or push as others claim they see), and it
was just a bad situation from there.
Of course you might think, with careful consideration, that SBU
was up big at that point so just let the guy go. That probably
would have been the right decision, but for those of us who have
seen Otchere all year you probably have to add the element of
inexperience and aggressiveness into the mix (obviously the
foundation of his often foul-prone games).
In the end it still was an ugly play, and a bad outcome for
Fleming that could have been worse and thankfully wasn't.
Despite my own opinion that Otchere did not do this on purpose,
simply considering the ugliness of the play I could imagine a
one-game suspension as being appropriate. Maybe just one of
those things you gotta do and move on. Guess we'll see.
[/quote]
Yeah I don’t get the SB hate either. It’s not like
we are perennial winner in b-ball. We went to dance only once!
Pikiell was a gentleman. Boals seems like same. May be they are
afraid of the potential?
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