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Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: June 1, 2019, 3:51 pm
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If it’s so difficult to field a nationally competitive team as a
northeastern school (which may be the case), then serious
consideration should be given to dropping baseball like New
Hampshire did. If the baseball program is losing money, which I
assume it is, it’s an overall negative for the school. SBU is
not attracting good students and faculty because of its baseball
program (2012 notwithstanding). The money could be better used
elsewhere.
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Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: Wolfie_MD
Date: June 1, 2019, 5:44 pm
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--- Quote from: ry1nik link ---
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> If it’s so difficult to field a nationally competitive team as
a northeastern school (which may be the case), then serious
consideration should be given to dropping baseball like New
Hampshire did. If the baseball program is losing money, which I
assume it is, it’s an overall negative for the school. SBU is
not attracting good students and faculty because of its baseball
program (2012 notwithstanding). The money could be better used
elsewhere.
>
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Couldn't disagree more- baseball has become one of the
cornerstone sports at Stony Brook. Aside from UConn, there
probably isn't a better D1 baseball team in the northeast in
recent years. There are a number of MLB players coming from
Stony Brook and several on the way as well. This is a pretty
legitimate program. We shouldn't overreact to losing to ASU and
LSU in this regional- those are two really good teams.
Anyway its a moot point because nobody in the administration
thinks that way.
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Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: June 1, 2019, 5:55 pm
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I understand your point, but I wouldn’t drop baseball
personally. The positive branding that SBU received in 2012 was
immeasurable, and was certainly worth the price of admission.
Baseball is most definitely a loss leader overall in terms of
raw spending and $ return with Senk’s $150k, the 11.7 schollys,
and travel budget. However, even though we got crushed in this
years’ regional, the publicity we received for being in it is
worth value to the university at large, imo. Sports does play a
key role indirectly in the ranking world, and I believe baseball
plays a small, but valuable part in that.
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Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: guest152
Date: June 1, 2019, 6:20 pm
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--- Quote from: Wolfie_MD link ---
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> [quote author=ry1nik link=topic=746.msg27056#msg27056
date=1559422297]
> If it’s so difficult to field a nationally competitive team as
a northeastern school (which may be the case), then serious
consideration should be given to dropping baseball like New
Hampshire did. If the baseball program is losing money, which I
assume it is, it’s an overall negative for the school. SBU is
not attracting good students and faculty because of its baseball
program (2012 notwithstanding). The money could be better used
elsewhere.
>
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Couldn't disagree more- baseball has become one of the
cornerstone sports at Stony Brook. Aside from UConn, there
probably isn't a better D1 baseball team in the northeast in
recent years. There are a number of MLB players coming from
Stony Brook and several on the way as well. This is a pretty
legitimate program. We shouldn't overreact to losing to ASU and
LSU in this regional- those are two really good teams.
Anyway its a moot point because nobody in the administration
thinks that way.
[/quote]Plus if we keep turning out major league ball players,
I’d assume many of them will give back to the program
financially. (i.e. joe Nathan field). This might help mitigate
the financial burden the program has on the university.
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Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: June 2, 2019, 5:48 am
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--- Quote from: ry1nik link ---
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> If it’s so difficult to field a nationally competitive team as
a northeastern school (which may be the case), then serious
consideration should be given to dropping baseball like New
Hampshire did. If the baseball program is losing money, which I
assume it is, it’s an overall negative for the school. SBU is
not attracting good students and faculty because of its baseball
program (2012 notwithstanding). The money could be better used
elsewhere.
>
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Seriously :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o. Stony Brook Baseball is well
known nationally. A staple, so to speak to this university. I
could think of a couple of other sports they could give up
before baseball. Tennis anyone!!!!!!
#Post#: 27063--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: Tml
Date: June 2, 2019, 7:35 am
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In the 2012 MLB draft, which school had the most players
drafted? LSU? Arizona? South Carolina? Nope.
Stony Brook. 7 players.
Probably the biggest athletic achievement this school has ever
had.
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Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: June 2, 2019, 9:14 am
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Yep, I know it’s not the popular viewpoint but the 2012 CWS
appearance is like UMBC beating Virginia last year in
basketball. It gets great press for a year but the effects fade
over time and it’s unlikely to be repeated without a conference
switch. College sports exist to support the academic mission of
the university, not the other way around. Moving forward, I
don’t see baseball (or tennis, or softball...) doing anything to
boost SBU’s academic reputation, directly or indirectly. Most
students and faculty couldn’t care less, and attendance figures
prove it. Realistically, I don’t think baseball will be dropped,
but there’s reason to consider the option given the ceiling on
recruiting in the AEC and if the school’s finances require it.
#Post#: 27067--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: Tml
Date: June 2, 2019, 5:20 pm
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Who watches tennis, volleyball, track, etc? They’re all still
sports at SB.
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Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: June 4, 2019, 12:03 am
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--- Quote from: Tml link ---
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> Who watches tennis, volleyball, track, etc? They’re all still
sports at SB.
>
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Many of those are for Title IX compliance on the women's side
and outside of scholarships don't have many huge costs like
equipment, shoulder pads, huge coaching salaries, etc.
This is a discussion we're going to need to have at some point
about what sports we can keep/emphasize. Despite being in the
northeast, our Baseball team making the CWS showed we can field
a competitive team up here in the NE. It's not impossible. SBU
is a very good school too, so we can attract the athletes. It's
tough for us, but not impossible. Baseball is a cornerstone
American sport and despite not being exactly well suited for it,
it's not one we should drop. Conference realignment will be a
hot topic in the coming years and while it's a tertiary
consideration at best, baseball is an important sport to the
southern based conferences. It's a revenue sport in the SEC for
instance. Having it and being relevant in it are bonuses.
Getting killed the way we did against LSU and ASU is more a
function of being in the AE and not having the talent. Have to
switch conferences for that.
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Re: 2019 Baseball season
DIR By: guest369
Date: June 4, 2019, 12:10 am
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Hopefully we get a new president with a Power 5 mindset. The
state chancellor said that she wants our endowment to be $1
billion in 10 years, so she has “big time” in her mind.
Especially with our AAU ties, getting a fresh face in charge in
time for conference realignment could be crucial.
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