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Re: Game 8: vs. Quinnipiac 12/1
DIR By: laxnation
Date: December 2, 2018, 8:57 am
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McKenzie with 0 points in 4 of the last 5 games. Hopefully,
Boals keeps his playing tine very limited.
#Post#: 24619--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 8: vs. Quinnipiac 12/1
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: December 2, 2018, 10:15 am
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--- Quote from: laxnation link ---
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> McKenzie with 0 points in 4 of the last 5 games. Hopefully,
Boals keeps his playing tine very limited.
>
--- End Quote ---
McKenzie has been on a slide of late. What worries me is that
Cornish, although playing better of late, is extremely foul
prone and can play out of control at times. To expect Cornish
to play 30+ minutes every night may not be realistic. Not sure
we can count on McKenzie at the point in a backup role. If not
McKenzie, who then? Elijah maybe? He handles the ball pretty
well, but playing him at the 1 would surely put a damper on his
slashing game. Haven't seen Ceesay enough to know if his ball
handling/passing skills are ready yet. Even though Cornish has
picked up his play the last 2 games, the point guard position
has been my biggest concern on this team. Sometimes winning
games can mask team weaknesses.
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Re: Game 8: vs. Quinnipiac 12/1
DIR By: sbugold
Date: December 2, 2018, 12:23 pm
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--- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
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> [quote author=laxnation link=topic=733.msg24618#msg24618
date=1543762627]
> McKenzie with 0 points in 4 of the last 5 games. Hopefully,
Boals keeps his playing tine very limited.
>
--- End Quote ---
McKenzie has been on a slide of late. What worries me is that
Cornish, although playing better of late, is extremely foul
prone and can play out of control at times. To expect Cornish
to play 30+ minutes every night may not be realistic. Not sure
we can count on McKenzie at the point in a backup role. If not
McKenzie, who then? Elijah maybe? He handles the ball pretty
well, but playing him at the 1 would surely put a damper on his
slashing game. Haven't seen Ceesay enough to know if his ball
handling/passing skills are ready yet. Even though Cornish has
picked up his play the last 2 games, the point guard position
has been my biggest concern on this team. Sometimes winning
games can mask team weaknesses.
[/quote]
I agree wholeheartedly with your thinking. Unfortunately, we
don't have a good PG backup for Cornish right now. All the
other guards seem to be shooters, not court managers. I think
there is likely too much downside to moving Olaniyi into that
role, but I'm wondering whether Jules Moor could maybe handle
it. He seems like he has good instincts, and doesn't seem too
prone to turnovers. Makale Foreman (current redshirt due to
transfer rules) will take Cornish's slot next year, and he's
supposed to be a good one. But, that will leave us with the
same situation as this year--no viable backup. Maybe we should
use our only scholly opening to get another PG,even though we've
offered some very interesting SFs and PFs.
#Post#: 24621--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 8: vs. Quinnipiac 12/1
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: December 2, 2018, 12:35 pm
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--- Quote from: sbugold link ---
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> [quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=733.msg24619#msg24619
date=1543767324]
> [quote author=laxnation link=topic=733.msg24618#msg24618
date=1543762627]
> McKenzie with 0 points in 4 of the last 5 games. Hopefully,
Boals keeps his playing tine very limited.
>
--- End Quote ---
McKenzie has been on a slide of late. What worries me is that
Cornish, although playing better of late, is extremely foul
prone and can play out of control at times. To expect Cornish
to play 30+ minutes every night may not be realistic. Not sure
we can count on McKenzie at the point in a backup role. If not
McKenzie, who then? Elijah maybe? He handles the ball pretty
well, but playing him at the 1 would surely put a damper on his
slashing game. Haven't seen Ceesay enough to know if his ball
handling/passing skills are ready yet. Even though Cornish has
picked up his play the last 2 games, the point guard position
has been my biggest concern on this team. Sometimes winning
games can mask team weaknesses.
[/quote]
I agree wholeheartedly with your thinking. Unfortunately, we
don't have a good PG backup for Cornish right now. All the
other guards seem to be shooters, not court managers. I think
there is likely too much downside to moving Olaniyi into that
role, but I'm wondering whether Jules Moor could maybe handle
it. He seems like he has good instincts, and doesn't seem too
prone to turnovers. Makale Foreman (current redshirt due to
transfer rules) will take Cornish's slot next year, and he's
supposed to be a good one. But, that will leave us with the
same situation as this year--no viable backup. Maybe we should
use our only scholly opening to get another PG,even though we've
offered some very interesting SFs and PFs.
[/quote]
Too bad Foreman is a year away. Moor has been growing on me, and
has been showing a little offensive game of late. He is very
athletic and is an active player for sure, but don’t feel he has
the ballgandling skills to run the point. Maybe I’m wrong
though.
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Re: Game 8: vs. Quinnipiac 12/1
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: December 2, 2018, 5:46 pm
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--- Quote from: sbugold link ---
>
> [quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=733.msg24619#msg24619
date=1543767324]
> [quote author=laxnation link=topic=733.msg24618#msg24618
date=1543762627]
> McKenzie with 0 points in 4 of the last 5 games. Hopefully,
Boals keeps his playing tine very limited.
>
--- End Quote ---
McKenzie has been on a slide of late. What worries me is that
Cornish, although playing better of late, is extremely foul
prone and can play out of control at times. To expect Cornish
to play 30+ minutes every night may not be realistic. Not sure
we can count on McKenzie at the point in a backup role. If not
McKenzie, who then? Elijah maybe? He handles the ball pretty
well, but playing him at the 1 would surely put a damper on his
slashing game. Haven't seen Ceesay enough to know if his ball
handling/passing skills are ready yet. Even though Cornish has
picked up his play the last 2 games, the point guard position
has been my biggest concern on this team. Sometimes winning
games can mask team weaknesses.
[/quote]
I agree wholeheartedly with your thinking. Unfortunately, we
don't have a good PG backup for Cornish right now. All the
other guards seem to be shooters, not court managers. I think
there is likely too much downside to moving Olaniyi into that
role, but I'm wondering whether Jules Moor could maybe handle
it. He seems like he has good instincts, and doesn't seem too
prone to turnovers. Makale Foreman (current redshirt due to
transfer rules) will take Cornish's slot next year, and he's
supposed to be a good one. But, that will leave us with the
same situation as this year--no viable backup. Maybe we should
use our only scholly opening to get another PG,even though we've
offered some very interesting SFs and PFs.
[/quote]
Moor seems to be the guy there. I like what I've seen from him
thus far.
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Re: Game 8: vs. Quinnipiac 12/1
DIR By: guest282
Date: December 2, 2018, 9:07 pm
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Makenzie was very good against RI and decent enough against
Norfolk. Even if his numbers aren't great, the ball moves well
and SB gets good shots with him out there...I'll take that from
a backup PG.
I agree about Moor. We likely won't see much from Christie this
year, but Moor and Latimer are legit, and Long is likely the
best 10th man in the AE.
#Post#: 24631--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 8: vs. Quinnipiac 12/1
DIR By: GoSeawolves
Date: December 3, 2018, 7:08 am
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Stony Brook really did a great job this year with recruiting,
everyone that I have brought to a game this year loves Miles
Latimer. He not only can score his energy on defense is great to
see. I am not sure if its his long hair :) but the kid gets
right up into the grill of opposing players. He can be a player
the team can market if he keeps getting better.
I did see the coach get pretty upset with McKenzie in this game
and if I read Boals lips correctly he told him to sit down. I
like McKenzie, he has a cool, calm way he brings the ball up but
his shooting is really bad. If he is gonna staying Div I
basketball he needs to work on that.
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Re: Game 8: vs. Quinnipiac 12/1
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: December 3, 2018, 11:26 am
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McKenzie's hard to watch sometimes. Yes, I've been one of Mac's
biggest supporters and he does have a steady hand, but he just
seems so timid now. I expected him to make some kind of jump
offensively from last year, but we haven't seen that. He won't
shoot the perimeter shot, and he isn't even looking to penetrate
the defense to score or distribute. That's where/when he was
most successful at the end of last season. I think he's fairly
adept off the dribble from 12 feet in but he isn't even looking
for that. All that said, I agree with AVM – he's fine as a
backup point guard.
Cornish has really grown on me. In terms of running the point,
he's not there yet, but I kind of liken him to Mike Piazza, who
had an obvious defensive flaw but you could overlook it because
he was such an offensive weapon. Yeah, the other guy stole
second base, but my guy hit a three-run homer. Cornish's biggest
flaw is his erratic play at times, but you sacrifice a few
possessions for what he brings to the table offensively. He had
the whole QU D on skates out there Saturday and had some great
finishes at the rim. I expect his lob to Otchere to be on our
starting lineup montage next week.
If we had a 34/6 or 32/8 split between Cornish and Mac for
minutes, I'm good with that right now.
I don't know what the answer is next year. Foreman isn't a
tried-and-true 1 from my understanding. Where does Ceesay fit
in?
The two freshmen, Latimer and Moor, have very bright futures
here. Latimer has an appetite and ability to score that
parallels or tops just about anyone we've seen come in here
recently. His move on the block on 61-59 (I think) was a thing
of beauty. For Moor, I just love his physicality and effort. To
have a guy who will mix it up inside, can put it on the floor,
can knock down the outside jumper, and can defend just about any
position in this conference, just a real nice get for the
coaching staff.
My apologies on omitting Rich Kelly from the QU preview. He was
a key contributor as a freshman but Saturday was his first
action of the season. Very, very impressed with him. Hard-nosed,
solid perimeter shot, finds the open man ... really good guy to
have up there for the next three years.
Great to have Elijah back. In the same vein, however, I was
disappointed that Long was relegated to a DNP-CD again though.
I'm not sure who Boals would have taken minutes from and I know
there are only so many to go around, but I thought he did a nice
job in limited time the previous two games and that might have
warranted some burn.
The Quinnipiac post players want no part of Otchere and Ochefu.
There were times when Marfo and Bundu caught the ball in deep on
our guys and they didn't even look at the hoop. Love that post
presence.
All in all, it would have been a devastating loss, but to see
the guys rebound after squandering most of the lead was a good
sign. When the going gets tough, we get going.
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