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#Post#: 24448--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Wolffan Date: November 25, 2018, 3:33 pm
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[quote author=Tml link=topic=727.msg24447#msg24447
date=1543153834]
It wasn’t a lack of passing. They threw 44 times. They had
over 400 yards total offense. They just didn’t execute well.
It’s never been a lack of passing. Carbone averaged 23 pass
attempts per game over his career. SB throws. They just don’t
do it well.
It was the 4 turnovers that cost them the game. SEMO took care
of the ball. SB didn’t. You can’t cough it up 4 times and win,
especially when the other team doesn’t turn it over.
[/quote]
As much as arm strength/accuracy, his lack of foot speed was
glaring this year. SE Missouri's QB was not greased
lightening...but had decent speed and that absolutely killed us
3rd quarter.
#Post#: 24450--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: ry1nik Date: November 25, 2018, 4:16 pm
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[quote author=newfan link=topic=727.msg24430#msg24430
date=1543106103]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=727.msg24428#msg24428
date=1543100558]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=727.msg24423#msg24423
date=1543099338]
[quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=727.msg24422#msg24422
date=1543098827]
Two ugly losses in a row . That 3rd quarter was disaster
especially coach P on TV pushing a lineman on the sidelines .
Lets see what the excuses will be Monday . Just think we got
this guy 4 more years
[/quote]
Totally missed this. Wish it wasn't the only thing I missed from
this game though. Pathetic performance.
[/quote]
I cant stand this man. Time to have a talk with the big boss
about his contract extension.
[/quote]
I'm torn on this....I agree there are many games where I scratch
my head at some of the game plans or in game calls, and I admit
I have no inside information on what his players think of
him...but at the college level, and especially the FCS level,
recruiting (including attracting big name transfers) is almost
as important as the X's and O's. I feel every year SBU puts a
ton of talent on the field....even if we can legitimately say
another coach would have executed better, or had a team more
fired up to play, can we be sure that another coach would have
been capable of putting the same caliber team on the field?
[/quote]
Not sure the numbers support Priore’s recruiting ability. This
season there are more than 150 players from 71 FCS schools on
NFL rosters. We know how many are from SB. So either he’s not
good at recruiting or once he gets top recruits here, he doesn’t
develop them.
#Post#: 24454--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: NewGuy Date: November 25, 2018, 6:50 pm
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for what its worth. Our son played his last game yesterday and
its been a wild 5 years. Sadly, I am no longer a Coach P fan
and aside from some of his play calling I believe that many of
the players don't have the respect that I did when I played. I
have not polled anyone, but you can see it on the sidelines. As
the fan forum continues forward I hope that you spend the time
looking at the WHOLE game when it's won and lost, and the cause
and effect of not just the game but the personnel in game
situations that can kill a team.
Yes, the TO's killed us and yes the 28 points were tough to
swallow sitting there in the stands, and then the four major
penalties (which we had been managing to NOT get- and then we
did) But, one thing that's burn my a$$ over this year is #5 our
punt returner (and even most of the others in the past).
For instance yesterday he placed us in POOR field position on at
least 4 punts where he would not come up and challenge the punt
or just let it go, and the one where the punt went of the foot
of our guy on another short punt he would not get under.
Good luck in the future to all of whose sons' are still playing,
and hope they have the long standing relationships with their
teammates as our son did.
#Post#: 24456--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Seawolf97 Date: November 25, 2018, 7:52 pm
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Our returner #5/WR isnt the best for sure . He has let more
balls go for loss than he actually grabbed and return . I
think he is gun shy back there
#Post#: 24457--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Hammertime Date: November 26, 2018, 4:09 am
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[quote author=NewGuy link=topic=727.msg24454#msg24454
date=1543193420]
for what its worth. Our son played his last game yesterday and
its been a wild 5 years. Sadly, I am no longer a Coach P fan
and aside from some of his play calling I believe that many of
the players don't have the respect that I did when I played. I
have not polled anyone, but you can see it on the sidelines. As
the fan forum continues forward I hope that you spend the time
looking at the WHOLE game when it's won and lost, and the cause
and effect of not just the game but the personnel in game
situations that can kill a team.
Yes, the TO's killed us and yes the 28 points were tough to
swallow sitting there in the stands, and then the four major
penalties (which we had been managing to NOT get- and then we
did) But, one thing that's burn my a$$ over this year is #5 our
punt returner (and even most of the others in the past).
For instance yesterday he placed us in POOR field position on at
least 4 punts where he would not come up and challenge the punt
or just let it go, and the one where the punt went of the foot
of our guy on another short punt he would not get under.
Good luck in the future to all of whose sons' are still playing,
and hope they have the long standing relationships with their
teammates as our son did.
[/quote]
I know how you feel and I'm quite sure your son feels the same
way about coach P. I have had many conversations with former
players and their parents about this topic and I must say, the
majority of players all feel the same.
For SH to give coach P a new contract in the middle of the
season that runs through 2022 is very alarming and concerning to
me and it should be for others, as well.
#Post#: 24458--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Hammertime Date: November 26, 2018, 4:16 am
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[quote author=ry1nik link=topic=727.msg24450#msg24450
date=1543184204]
[quote author=newfan link=topic=727.msg24430#msg24430
date=1543106103]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=727.msg24428#msg24428
date=1543100558]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=727.msg24423#msg24423
date=1543099338]
[quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=727.msg24422#msg24422
date=1543098827]
Two ugly losses in a row . That 3rd quarter was disaster
especially coach P on TV pushing a lineman on the sidelines .
Lets see what the excuses will be Monday . Just think we got
this guy 4 more years
[/quote]
Totally missed this. Wish it wasn't the only thing I missed from
this game though. Pathetic performance.
[/quote]
I cant stand this man. Time to have a talk with the big boss
about his contract extension.
[/quote]
I'm torn on this....I agree there are many games where I scratch
my head at some of the game plans or in game calls, and I admit
I have no inside information on what his players think of
him...but at the college level, and especially the FCS level,
recruiting (including attracting big name transfers) is almost
as important as the X's and O's. I feel every year SBU puts a
ton of talent on the field....even if we can legitimately say
another coach would have executed better, or had a team more
fired up to play, can we be sure that another coach would have
been capable of putting the same caliber team on the field?
[/quote]
Not sure the numbers support Priore’s recruiting ability. This
season there are more than 150 players from 71 FCS schools on
NFL rosters. We know how many are from SB. So either he’s not
good at recruiting or once he gets top recruits here, he doesn’t
develop them.
[/quote]
It's hard to recruit good players out of HS when there is zero
history of this program getting kids drafted. I believe SB
coaches dont have what it takes to take them to the next level
and falls on the shoulders of the coaches, all of them.
I can only think of one coach in the 10 years Ive been following
SB football that is a quality coach and who can take an athlete
and make him into a quality BFL player, and that is Lyle
Hemphill, who was just promoted to Defensive Coordinator at Wake
Forest.
#Post#: 24459--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Campi47 Date: November 26, 2018, 7:32 am
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A couple of thoughts about Coach P
150 FCS players in the NFL however most of those players began
their college careers in the FBS and than transferred to FCS
schools
What coach are you getting to hire to run this program because
no FBS assistant is coming who has aspirations, instead they
will go to another FBS program and move up that way so if SBU
wants to go in another direction they should go after a top
assistant in the FCS.
Recruiting you will only have to wait till the Spring because
the last 2 classes will fully be on display and you will see if
our recruits are any good or not
#Post#: 24460--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Hammertime Date: November 26, 2018, 9:35 am
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[quote author=Campi47 link=topic=727.msg24459#msg24459
date=1543239153]
A couple of thoughts about Coach P
150 FCS players in the NFL however most of those players began
their college careers in the FBS and than transferred to FCS
schools
What coach are you getting to hire to run this program because
no FBS assistant is coming who has aspirations, instead they
will go to another FBS program and move up that way so if SBU
wants to go in another direction they should go after a top
assistant in the FCS.
Recruiting you will only have to wait till the Spring because
the last 2 classes will fully be on display and you will see if
our recruits are any good or not
[/quote]
True, but no sense talking about this topic anymore. SB locked
him in for 4 more years so, he's staying put..
#Post#: 24461--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: NewGuy Date: November 26, 2018, 9:42 am
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Yep. Thankfully his position coach (who really recruited him)
was at least more positive. With Coach P- you get what you get.
He's not ever going to change and no doubt every kid (and their
parents now this by now). As to SH I have to believe that in his
database and discussions with other AD's they know whats out
there and who's available or not and for how much.
So he came up with the contract extension based on what I think
was not just the mediocre record but what's out there (IMHO) and
who's in the hopper for talent. I believe SH did in fact look
around- he's too smart not to. As many of us know, we keep on
telling kids, don't pick the school for the Coach- pick it for
what you want to do from a study/work effort when you hang up
the cleats.
#Post#: 24465--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: November 26, 2018, 12:41 pm
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[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=727.msg24458#msg24458
date=1543227410]
It's hard to recruit good players out of HS when there is zero
history of this program getting kids drafted. I believe SB
coaches dont have what it takes to take them to the next level
and falls on the shoulders of the coaches, all of them.
I can only think of one coach in the 10 years Ive been following
SB football that is a quality coach and who can take an athlete
and make him into a quality BFL player, and that is Lyle
Hemphill, who was just promoted to Defensive Coordinator at Wake
Forest.
[/quote]
Funny you mention Hemphill. I think we should have fired Coach P
after the 2016 season and promoted Hemphill to be the head
coach. Hemphill coached our guys into the number 1 defense in
FCS for a time. To let that guy simply walk out the door was
criminal. I wonder if we could get him back? He was far and away
the best guy to take over our program. That defense was the only
thing preventing those teams from going 2-9.
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