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       #Post#: 24431--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: November 24, 2018, 6:48 pm
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       And if we can't properly utilize the guys we do put on the
       field, what good is it?? The talent for a deep playoff run has
       been there for years, yet by and large it's been five win
       seasons. Defensively we do well, love that side of the ball
       despite the second half meltdown today, it's the offense where
       we seriously struggle. As has been said, this is Coach P's
       ceiling. Barring more changes at OC, this is as dynamic as our
       offense is going to get.
       Bringing in the right hire is important, but it's highly
       improbable our recruiting would fall off a cliff with a new
       coach.
       There is a lot to like about our program right now, to the point
       where you have to wonder if maybe a couple more offensive
       changes would be enough to salvage things. These last two games
       really make you wonder though. They've been so ugly....
       The biggest mistake of all though was extending him mid-season.
       There was already a phantom extension done that nobody ever knew
       about, so to extend him again? For what? We made that move now
       look like a bunch of idiots!!
       #Post#: 24433--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: Hammertime Date: November 24, 2018, 6:57 pm
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       [quote author=newfan link=topic=727.msg24430#msg24430
       date=1543106103]
       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=727.msg24428#msg24428
       date=1543100558]
       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=727.msg24423#msg24423
       date=1543099338]
       [quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=727.msg24422#msg24422
       date=1543098827]
       Two ugly losses in a row . That 3rd quarter was disaster
       especially coach P  on TV pushing a lineman on the sidelines .
       Lets see what the excuses will be Monday . Just think  we got
       this guy 4 more years
       [/quote]
       Totally missed this. Wish it wasn't the only thing I missed from
       this game though. Pathetic performance.
       [/quote]
       I cant stand this man. Time to have a talk with the big boss
       about his contract extension.
       [/quote]
       I'm torn on this....I agree there are many games where I scratch
       my head at some of the game plans or in game calls, and I admit
       I have no inside information on what his players think of
       him...but at the college level, and especially the FCS level,
       recruiting (including attracting big name transfers) is almost
       as important as the X's and O's. I feel every year SBU puts a
       ton of talent on the field....even if we can legitimately say
       another coach would have executed better, or had a team more
       fired up to play, can we be sure that another coach would have
       been capable of putting the same caliber team on the field?
       [/quote]
       Absolutely and without a doubt!!!! This team lacks a quality QB.
       It's no surprise that SB is a pound and ground team. You might
       as well just give your JV playbook to the opposing team, but to
       be effective a team must have all the tangables.  A QB who can
       hand the ball off effectively,  carbone can not. A QB who can
       throw accurately.  Carbone can not.  And a QB who can run.
       Carbone can not. This school will never get a decent QB because
       of coach P style of playing. Bring in a new coach has has a
       history of doing it all, then you eventually attract a QB who
       can do it all.
       I really can go on and on and on, but it is getting old and I
       sound like a broken record. Carbone gone, good grief but who can
       step up to the plate a do a better job. I'm not sure if Fields
       or any other QB on this roster has what it takes to be that
       decent QB.
       Coach P has a new, 4 year contract, not 2 like they want us to
       believe,  so either we get used to him for 4 more years or just
       stop watching the games. I am leaning more to the " I had enough
       of coach P"!!!
       #Post#: 24435--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: Hammertime Date: November 24, 2018, 7:06 pm
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       "Phantom extension" perfect.. That ghost contract that was
       extended to coach P for one more season from the interim AD,
       Donna W, was to expire in 2018. Google coach P ol contract. This
       school plays games and doesnt tell us the truth, all while keep
       raising our ticket and parking passes for football year after
       year. Keep blowing the easy games and get blown out by halfway
       decent teams, and they will lose a real valuable fan base. That
       is the local community..
       #Post#: 24438--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: newfan Date: November 24, 2018, 9:37 pm
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=727.msg24435#msg24435
       date=1543107977]
       "Phantom extension" perfect.. That ghost contract that was
       extended to coach P for one more season from the interim AD,
       Donna W, was to expire in 2018. Google coach P ol contract. This
       school plays games and doesnt tell us the truth, all while keep
       raising our ticket and parking passes for football year after
       year. Keep blowing the easy games and get blown out by halfway
       decent teams, and they will lose a real valuable fan base. That
       is the local community..
       [/quote]
       Where did they raise our ticket prices? When they announced
       renewals for 2019 I actually looked back at my old
       invoices...absent tacking on a $10 handling charge that started
       a few years ago (and I am unsure of whether the school or an
       outside processing company pockets that $10), next year's season
       tix are the exact same price for the season as in 2013...oh, and
       we have 7 home games next year, in 2013 we had 5...so tickets
       actually got cheaper
       #Post#: 24440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: November 25, 2018, 12:10 am
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       CAA fell on its face today. wow
       #Post#: 24441--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: guest282 Date: November 25, 2018, 1:51 am
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       What did Gilzene (sp?) do to get ejected? He was nowhere near
       the QB when the ball was thrown and ESPN did not replay it.
       #Post#: 24443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: Hammertime Date: November 25, 2018, 6:34 am
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       Can anyone verify what happen with coach P shoving one of the O
       lineman. I missed that part.
       #Post#: 24445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: Tml Date: November 25, 2018, 7:23 am
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       [quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=727.msg24397#msg24397
       date=1543095527]
       I have missed of the game. the days prior to thanksgiving day
       brought us a terrible family tragedy.
       I have now tuned in to watch with the hope of bringing a bit of
       normalcy back to my life
       [/quote]
       Sorry you had to suffer a family tragedy.  Some things are more
       important than sports.
       #Post#: 24446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: ry1nik Date: November 25, 2018, 7:30 am
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=727.msg24443#msg24443
       date=1543149287]
       Can anyone verify what happen with coach P shoving one of the O
       lineman. I missed that part.
       [/quote]
       It wasn’t clear but I had the impression Priore shoved
       Vasquez(?) because he was going on the field when there were
       already 11 players. I could be wrong so just filling in the
       blank. It was pretty physical which is why the announcer
       suggested the coach is falling apart just like his team.
       #Post#: 24447--------------------------------------------------
       Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
       By: Tml Date: November 25, 2018, 7:50 am
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       It wasn’t a lack of passing.  They threw 44 times.  They had
       over 400 yards total offense.  They just didn’t execute well.
       It’s never been a lack of passing.  Carbone averaged 23 pass
       attempts per game over his career.  SB throws.  They just don’t
       do it well.
       It was the 4 turnovers that cost them the game. SEMO took care
       of the ball.  SB didn’t.  You can’t cough it up 4 times and win,
       especially when the other team doesn’t turn it over.
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