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Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Chrissy D. Date: November 18, 2018, 9:52 pm
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What excuses where made. The point that was made is that some of
you guys are never happy with anything that goes on. That was a
bad lose yesterday but it didnt cost them a birth. If JMU didnt
get a seed then no way SB wouldve got one. Its funny how some of
you would blame the AD now for not getting a home game, that
falls on the team. They are not going to put 6 CAA teams in and
give them all home games. There are other things that are
considered when schools look at a program. They look at
graduation rate and is the program run clean, also recruiting.
You mention the Liberty game a few yrs back and forgot to
mention the year after in 2011 when they beat liberty at home to
secure the playoff birth. I dont care what someone gets paid nor
do I obsess about a coach on an FCS team. I watch and root for
the team. My point was that there is only venum spewed about a
coach, instead of talking about what is good about the team.
Facts are facts and this team is in the playoffs again, like it
or not. I am going to trust the fact that the AD knows a lot
more about his job than anyone of us. Enjoy the game.
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Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: November 18, 2018, 10:23 pm
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Ahead of our match-up against SE Missouri State, I took a look
at the statistics
HTML https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs
and a couple things jump
out to me. When it comes to rushing defense, they're ranked 78th
in the country giving up 189 yards per game. For reference,
Fordham who we rushed for 311 yards against is ranked 81st in
the country giving up 192 yards per game on average. Our highest
rushing total of the year was against Rhode Island and they're
ranked 54th nationally giving up 163 yards per game. We ran for
354 yards against them. Running the ball on these guys won't be
a problem.
One thing I did find shocking about them was that their passing
defense was ranked 122nd in the country (out of 124 teams). They
give up on average 304 passing yards per game which is God
awful. For reference, our best passing game of the year was 270
yards against Villanova and their passing defense is ranked 22nd
nationally. A balanced attack will work for this game, but
Carbone should have his best passing game of the season. The
worst passing defense we faced this year was Richmond who is
ranked 82nd and gave up 225 yards per game on average. Their
secondary is clearly weak, and we can torch them through the air
if need be.
The only thing concerning about them is they're ranked 9th
nationally in scoring offense, averaging 39 points a game.
That's quite good. Though for reference, JMU and Towson are
ranked 13th and 14th averaging ~37 points per game. We held them
to 13 and 52 points respectively. If the defense from the JMU
game shows up, we'll handle SEMO State just fine. If the Towson
defense shows up, this could turn into a real shootout. We're
ranked 10th nationally in scoring defense. So you have the 9th
best scoring offense in the country against the 10th best
scoring defense. That'll be the match-up to watch.
Looking at these stats makes me feel much better about the game.
Keep in mind that the Ohio Valley is nowhere near the conference
the CAA is, so they're giving up all these yards against weak
competition. Signature Stony Brook football of running the ball
and playing stout defense should really work well this game, and
Carbone ought to have confidence in his ability to throw the
ball downfield should this game become a shootout.
#Post#: 24339--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Hammertime Date: November 19, 2018, 3:50 am
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[quote author=Chrissy D. link=topic=727.msg24332#msg24332
date=1542582621]
Lets acknowledge some of these seniors and the careers they have
had. Guys like Haggert who came back from 2 acl surgerys to be a
4 yr starter and captain. Liotine who wasnt expected to do
anything as a walkon from a small school, to one of the top
backs in the CAA and in the top 5 at SB in rushing and all
purpose yds. McGinty and Lawless both in top 5 in tackles. These
kids are easy to root for. Stony Brook is not lucky to be in the
CAA, they earned it by doing what they did in the big south. If
you are an alumn and root for the school then do that and enjoy
the kids who play for the team. Hard work goes into making the
playoffs 2 yrs in a row. Home game wouldve been nice but lets
not say that Heilibran screwed up the bidding process. The lose
yesterday probably had to do with that. The only mention on this
thread about this team is how Priore stole your lunch money.
Coaches are coaches, the players make the engine run. The
feeling of failing so the coach goes is really getting old. That
is not supporting the players or the team. What hasnt been
mentioned from yesterdays game was the lame flag thrown on
Wheatley for taking his helmet off during the hailmary
celebration. That moved the kick back and thus brought on the
squib kick. Bottom line is this team is in the playoffs again so
either get on board or jump off cause its getting old.
[/quote]
I have to agree with you with giving credit to the senior
players on the team. They played incredibly well and is the main
reason why SB had a good season. Haggart is a beast and will be
missed. I wont be missing Carbone though, that's for sure. With
that said. Yeah, Wheatley got over excited and the bonehead ref
throws a flag on him for removing his helmet, thus costing us a
15-yard penalty on the kickoff. Soooo, why not kick it even
deeper and towards the sidelines and let it go out of bounds and
take the penalty??? A squib kick pretty much guarantees the
other team great field position, 90% of the time, doesn't it???
This had to be coach P worst play calling of the year and did
cost his team, university, big time.
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Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: ecasadoSBU Date: November 19, 2018, 3:02 pm
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[quote author=Chrissy D. link=topic=727.msg24332#msg24332
date=1542582621]
Lets acknowledge some of these seniors and the careers they have
had. Guys like Haggert who came back from 2 acl surgerys to be a
4 yr starter and captain. Liotine who wasnt expected to do
anything as a walkon from a small school, to one of the top
backs in the CAA and in the top 5 at SB in rushing and all
purpose yds. McGinty and Lawless both in top 5 in tackles. These
kids are easy to root for. Stony Brook is not lucky to be in the
CAA, they earned it by doing what they did in the big south. If
you are an alumn and root for the school then do that and enjoy
the kids who play for the team. Hard work goes into making the
playoffs 2 yrs in a row. Home game wouldve been nice but lets
not say that Heilibran screwed up the bidding process. The lose
yesterday probably had to do with that. The only mention on this
thread about this team is how Priore stole your lunch money.
Coaches are coaches, the players make the engine run. The
feeling of failing so the coach goes is really getting old. That
is not supporting the players or the team. What hasnt been
mentioned from yesterdays game was the lame flag thrown on
Wheatley for taking his helmet off during the hailmary
celebration. That moved the kick back and thus brought on the
squib kick. Bottom line is this team is in the playoffs again so
either get on board or jump off cause its getting old.
[/quote]
THANK YOU CHRISSY!
I couldn't have said it any better. This team is deserving of
our support. We need to enjoy the moment. Half of the programs
in the CAA would love to be in the playoffs right now. Guess
what? We are in it, back to back years.
We are building success at Stony Brook little by little. Lets
look at the bigger picture guys!!
And thank you to the players and Coach P for giving me at the
very least one extra game to watch at home this Saturday! So
excited!!!
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Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: iBOsbu Date: November 19, 2018, 4:30 pm
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I don’t think it’s fair to equate criticizing the
coach or wanting a new coach to same as criticizing players or
lacking team/school spirit. I am very happy that we are in the
playoffs and excited too. Can’t wait to beat up the
RedHawks. I love our players. Seniors and not seniors.
I think Coach P was the right person to guide us from NEC to Big
South to CAA. Im very happy at where we are now as a program
comparing to where we were 10/15 years ago. We are now rubbing
shoulders with the elites of FCS. He has done tremendous job.
However I’m still unhappy with the Coach. It I feel like
this is Coach P’s ceiling. His weaknesses in play calling
are routinely exposed. His often makes head scratching
decisions. I think with the amount of money we are spending, we
can have even better coach.
I have no issue with getting penalized for unsportsmanlike
celebrations after the Hail Mary. Emotions can take over. These
are young players. But I have problem with many of the coaching
decisions that led to no option but throwing a Hail Mary against
last placed Albany.
#Post#: 24345--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Hammertime Date: November 19, 2018, 5:54 pm
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[quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=727.msg24342#msg24342
date=1542661355]
[quote author=Chrissy D. link=topic=727.msg24332#msg24332
date=1542582621]
Lets acknowledge some of these seniors and the careers they have
had. Guys like Haggert who came back from 2 acl surgerys to be a
4 yr starter and captain. Liotine who wasnt expected to do
anything as a walkon from a small school, to one of the top
backs in the CAA and in the top 5 at SB in rushing and all
purpose yds. McGinty and Lawless both in top 5 in tackles. These
kids are easy to root for. Stony Brook is not lucky to be in the
CAA, they earned it by doing what they did in the big south. If
you are an alumn and root for the school then do that and enjoy
the kids who play for the team. Hard work goes into making the
playoffs 2 yrs in a row. Home game wouldve been nice but lets
not say that Heilibran screwed up the bidding process. The lose
yesterday probably had to do with that. The only mention on this
thread about this team is how Priore stole your lunch money.
Coaches are coaches, the players make the engine run. The
feeling of failing so the coach goes is really getting old. That
is not supporting the players or the team. What hasnt been
mentioned from yesterdays game was the lame flag thrown on
Wheatley for taking his helmet off during the hailmary
celebration. That moved the kick back and thus brought on the
squib kick. Bottom line is this team is in the playoffs again so
either get on board or jump off cause its getting old.
[/quote]
THANK YOU CHRISSY!
I couldn't have said it any better. This team is deserving of
our support. We need to enjoy the moment. Half of the programs
in the CAA would love to be in the playoffs right now. Guess
what? We are in it, back to back years.
We are building success at Stony Brook little by little. Lets
look at the bigger picture guys!!
And thank you to the players and Coach P for giving me at the
very least one extra game to watch at home this Saturday! So
excited!!!
[/quote]
Kumbaya time????????
#Post#: 24349--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Wolfie_MD Date: November 19, 2018, 9:13 pm
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I've taken great pride in the strides taken by seniors such as
Julius Wingate who I have been waiting for since his freshman
year. It's also been a blast seeing Donny Liotine become a stud
FCS player after being hardly looked at coming out of the Stony
Brook School. Carbone has also shown he has been more than
capable in many games- we have a lot of uncertainty at QB going
into next year which is going to be really interesting.
I'm firmly on the Stony Brook bandwagon- I'm looking forward to
this next game. Hopefully Carbone gets back on track. This is a
winnable game IMHO- I do worry about our guys going all the way
to Missouri as its going to be a long trip- the place is >2
hours away from St. Louis. If we win that we then have a trip to
Utah in the cards!
To finish the earlier debate, being a fan of this team/players
and being critical of coaching are not mutually exclusive.
#Post#: 24353--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: semosupporter Date: November 20, 2018, 9:31 am
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Hello from SEMO. Congratulations on making the playoffs. I see
someone has brought up our bad defensive stats but not our good
stats. To tell the truth our defense has driven me nuts all
year. Let me list some of our better defensive stats for you.
#1 nationally in turnover margin, #1 in turnovers gained, #1 in
interceptions, #22 in fumbles recovered, we are also #1 in
fumbles lost, #5 in turnovers lost, #7 in blocked punts, and #9
in blocked kicks.
Our rushing game is much better than our numbers, especially in
the second half. We have a pre-season All-American running back
(Marcuis Terry) who has been banged up all year. He went out in
the first quarter of our last game but I think that was a
precaution and expect him to play Saturday. We have a very
balanced offense that will take what the defense gives us.
I expect our game to be one of the better ones to watch in the
first round. I’m hoping for a good hard fought injure free game.
Here is a link to our fan forum
HTML http://www.semofans.com/forum/
#Post#: 24354--------------------------------------------------
Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: November 20, 2018, 2:03 pm
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Welcome!!
I did not know your running back was that talented, though I
stand by my comments on the defense. I'm curious how a team can
lead the nation in interceptions, while also being last in the
country (or very close) in passing yards allowed. Unless most of
your interceptions are in the redzone, that's quite the feat!
I will admit you guys have a very good offense. Santacaterina is
an FBS transfer from NIU who saw the field there, and is now
lighting it up in the OVC. I have no doubt in your team's
ability to move the football. SBU is 10th nationally in scoring
defense, so the match-up of your offense against our defense
will be what defines the game.
As far as our offense goes, I'm excited to see what happens when
the Long Island Express comes to town. Liotine has over 1100
yards on the season, and Gowins has almost 1000 himself. They'd
both be over 1000 yards, but Gowins missed a game due to injury.
Both run behind a big offensive line that averages 314lbs up
front. I somewhat expect this one to be a shootout as both
offenses move the ball down field, though through primarily
different means. That would be fun as we don't often find
ourselves in that kind of game. I understand this is your first
home playoff game, so enjoy it. Go Seawolves!
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Re: G12: NCAA R1 - Stony Brook vs. SE Missou St.
By: Chairman of the Board Date: November 20, 2018, 10:25 pm
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welcome semo- great to have you on board to balance out
discussion. youll hopefully find that all of our fans, when
posting, will be as classy as you are. good luck and looking
forward to a great contest.
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