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       #Post#: 934--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: ecasadoSBU
       Date: December 14, 2011, 8:47 pm
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       I said in the ChampionshipSubdivision board previously that
       there is a major difference between SBU and the other SUNYs.
       This is one of them. We've been able to capture major donations,
       more than any other SUNY. Our location in wealthy downstate and
       in a higher populated New York metro area means we also got more
       representatives defending our interest up in Albany making it
       easier to work together with the legislators. Stony Brook will
       continue its path to success especially with this major
       donations that come in from time to time.
       Our Health related programs on East Campus will be impacted
       heavily by these donations, in a very positive way. It seems
       like Stony Brook doesn't want to loose its grip on Research
       after the heavy competition by SUNY Albany & SUNY Buffalo.
       #Post#: 937--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: sbufan
       Date: December 15, 2011, 12:55 am
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       Incredible news. I'm really looking forward to see Stony Brook
       shoot up the rankings in some of specific disciplines (I think
       our physics department is going to quickly become one of the
       premier departments in the country thanks to the Simons Center
       for Geometry and Physics) and as a university as a whole. I
       don't think Stanley is exaggerating by calling it a "rebirth".
       He is in a position to hire new faculty and make Stony Brook
       better for the first time since he has been president.
       #Post#: 938--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: ry1nik
       Date: December 15, 2011, 6:36 am
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       Since this is a board about SB sports, I'll make this comment
       re. the Simons donation— Hopefully the coaches can use the
       donation as a selling point for some recruitees who are on the
       fence between SBU and some other major program. I'm thinking
       especially about the early signing period for football in
       February. I mean, what high school kid wouldn't be impressed by
       a school that gets a gift like that?
       P.S. I think SBU is "big" enough. As an example, the the
       University of Virginia has 21,000 students. SBU has about
       25,000. We need to invest in improving the assets we already
       have.
       #Post#: 939--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: December 15, 2011, 8:07 am
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       Forgot to add- they also threw in $25M in 2006, and also created
       a 130 acre park in memory of their son.  I couldnt tell you the
       grand total of all of their generosity, but from just this
       thread its nearing a quarter of a billion dollars.
       #Post#: 941--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: sbufan
       Date: December 15, 2011, 9:33 am
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       --- Quote from: ry1nik link ---
       >
       > Since this is a board about SB sports, I'll make this comment
       re. the Simons donation— Hopefully the coaches can use the
       donation as a selling point for some recruitees who are on the
       fence between SBU and some other major program. I'm thinking
       especially about the early signing period for football in
       February. I mean, what high school kid wouldn't be impressed by
       a school that gets a gift like that?
       >
       > P.S. I think SBU is "big" enough. As an example, the the
       University of Virginia has 21,000 students. SBU has about
       25,000. We need to invest in improving the assets we already
       have.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah, to be able bring up the donation while talking about what
       the school has to offer, especially for recruiting in Florida,
       Texas, and Cali where the kids very likely have never heard of
       Stony Brook, could be impressive. Long term I think it will
       indirectly have a big impact on athletics. I really think this
       donation along with the tuition increases will set Stony Brook
       up to be a top 50 type institution, and athletics will naturally
       follow once the academic reputation becomes that strong.
       Regarding size, I don't know for sure but I think a lot of the
       enrollment increases are probably graduate students. If you're
       going to build new labs, you'll need to bring in graduate
       students to work in them.
       #Post#: 947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: ecasadoSBU
       Date: December 15, 2011, 10:55 pm
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       I think Stony Brook should reach the 30,000 mark in enrollment,
       cap undegraduate at 20,000 and Graduate at 10k. the 2:1 ratio
       should continue to be the guideline.
       With 20,000 undergraduates, everyone benefits. The bigger you
       are, the more significant...
       #Post#: 949--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: ry1nik
       Date: December 16, 2011, 7:25 am
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       --- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
       >
       > I think Stony Brook should reach the 30,000 mark in
       enrollment, cap undegraduate at 20,000 and Graduate at 10k. the
       2:1 ratio should continue to be the guideline.
       >
       > With 20,000 undergraduates, everyone benefits. The bigger you
       are, the more significant...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       ...to a point, ecasado. The three biggest public campuses are
       Arizona State, Central Florida, and Ohio State. None of those
       conjure up images of fine scholarly institutions to me. I first
       enrolled at SB when it had only 14K students, so perhaps I'm a
       bit biased against mega-campuses. 30,000 isn't crazy, but SB
       could reach new academic and athletic heights around its current
       enrollment numbers.
       #Post#: 951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: ecasadoSBU
       Date: December 16, 2011, 12:48 pm
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       Well, You got Ohio State, University of Florida, PennState,
       UCLA, University of Michigan, Illinois-Urbana and the list goes
       on as mega AAU Universities which have great academic/research
       reputation. We share the research intensive similarities with
       these universities. We shouldn't be afraid to grow. I wouldn't
       like the enrollment to be 40k+ but I think somewhere around the
       30k should be the goal
       However, as you pointed out, we can succeed in athletics with
       the current amount of students.
       #Post#: 954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: December 16, 2011, 4:55 pm
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       Dr  Stanley has mentioned several times  he sees SBU as the
       Stanford of the East. Interesting   comment. Stanford is a
       premier school  academically and athletically.
       #Post#: 956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Historic Announcement at Stony Brook??
   DIR By: ecasadoSBU
       Date: December 16, 2011, 9:47 pm
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       Well.... Thats just our president hyping things up. We are still
       veeeery far from being the Stanford of the East... We are
       working to get there.
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