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       #Post#: 23261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: September 27, 2018, 2:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chrissy D. link ---
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       > Totally agree. U can not come and go as u please anywhere
       else. It was a nice perk for how long it lasted. Time to move
       foward.
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       Totally disagree. If it's not broken then leave it alone. Why be
       like everybody else? You say it all the time. Stony Brook is not
       a bigtime football school where we have to follow the herd and
       change to be like a Clemson, Georgia, NC State, etc... SB can't
       afford to lose fans. Having the privilege to go out to the
       parking lot for a refreshment or something to eat is what
       attracted a lot of people to watch the game. Kids can throw the
       ball around on the field and play catch, and adults can BS back
       at the tailgate lot and congregate for a half hour then go back
       into the stadium to watch the rest of the game.
       I was actually keeping an eye on the Beergarden for the entire
       first half, from my seat, and was not impressed at all with the
       turnout of people buying beer. I dont see that as a HUGE money
       maker for the program..
       #Post#: 23262--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: September 27, 2018, 3:10 pm
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       this is all good discussion.  but i still think we are getting
       away from the larger issue.  if they dont keep kids on campus,
       the chances are low that they'll fill the stadium (and have any
       kind of student-atmosphere advantage).
       once we get them to stay on campus.  then issue #2 is how to get
       them to the game.  and then stay.
       #Post#: 23263--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: September 27, 2018, 3:18 pm
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       #Post#: 23264--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: September 27, 2018, 3:43 pm
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       Progress will come with time .  I have been following this
       program since its D3 days on the little field near the railroad
       station .  That's when we played power houses like  the Merchant
       Marine Academy  and  AIC .  Wooden bleachers maybe 300 people
       there on a good day and the teams  sat under  the trees  during
       halftime rain or shine.   We have improved  the experience  of
       game day.
       #Post#: 23265--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: Chrissy D.
       Date: September 27, 2018, 4:01 pm
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       Its not only about the beer, its the food concesdions as well.
       They added the new concession area so they could sell more food.
       As an alumn I appreciate the additions to the school, sports
       program, etc. The 30 yrs ago comment was right on, we played in
       front of 200 - 300 people. I enjoyed having a smoke at halftime
       and now i cant, its not going to stop me from going or enjoying
       the game. And no we are not clemsom but changing the re- entry
       rule doesnt mean that they r trying to be. The fact that they
       allow alcohol on campus whether selling it inside or letting you
       taigait with it is another bonus. There are a lot of schools
       that dont allow it unless the stadium is off campus.
       #Post#: 23266--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: September 27, 2018, 4:21 pm
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       im not debating (nor do i think anyone else is!) how much
       progress we've made in 15 years.  i think we're just pointing
       out the long term problem, which existed back then, and hasnt
       moved along much, if at all.
       it's a fundamental, structural problem.  i only bring it up
       because we keep talking about FBS, expanding LaValle, bringing
       in more revenue, growing the program, and attendance.
       #Post#: 23267--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: ecasadoSBU
       Date: September 27, 2018, 4:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
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       >
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       This article almost confirms what I was feeling in regards to
       Stony Brook attendance.
       I don't think attendance has actually gone down. My feeling is
       that Stony Brook stopped over-reporting attendance once that WSJ
       article came out that blasted CFB programs for over-reporting.
       The reason I say this is because the last game against Richmond
       looked like the usual attendance we have been getting in the
       past few years (that's without counting the people standing in
       the beergarden/touchdown club). After attending so many games
       and looking at reported attendances I have a "feel" for what the
       attendance is like by just looking at the crowd. But now its all
       over the place... I thought there were 7500-8000 there last
       game, yet to my surprise the official attendance was 6,272.
       #Post#: 23268--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: Wolffan
       Date: September 27, 2018, 5:11 pm
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       My point in originally posting this thread is that this game
       looks like a perfect storm for a sell out (great seasons thus
       far for two CAA squads, a well known and respected quality
       opponent who is  likely to at least sellout the visitors side,
       perfect weather, not a three day weekend, game day experience as
       good as it has ever been, etc, etc).
       If we can't sell out this game this year, what game can we sell
       out this year?
       #Post#: 23269--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: Chrissy D.
       Date: September 27, 2018, 8:07 pm
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       If the weather holds up we got a shot at selling out homecoming
       #Post#: 23270--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
   DIR By: newfan
       Date: September 27, 2018, 8:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
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       > [quote author=Chrissy D. link=topic=707.msg23260#msg23260
       date=1538065531]
       > Totally agree. U can not come and go as u please anywhere
       else. It was a nice perk for how long it lasted. Time to move
       foward.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Totally disagree. If it's not broken then leave it alone. Why be
       like everybody else? You say it all the time. Stony Brook is not
       a bigtime football school where we have to follow the herd and
       change to be like a Clemson, Georgia, NC State, etc... SB can't
       afford to lose fans. Having the privilege to go out to the
       parking lot for a refreshment or something to eat is what
       attracted a lot of people to watch the game. Kids can throw the
       ball around on the field and play catch, and adults can BS back
       at the tailgate lot and congregate for a half hour then go back
       into the stadium to watch the rest of the game.
       I was actually keeping an eye on the Beergarden for the entire
       first half, from my seat, and was not impressed at all with the
       turnout of people buying beer. I dont see that as a HUGE money
       maker for the program..
       [/quote]
       I've been to "smaller time" football schools and you also
       cannot exit there either...while you may be disappointed you can
       no longer tailgate at half (and trust me, I am too...but I am
       willing to sacrifice it for beer in the stadium and a constantly
       evolving game day experience), I doubt people are "attracted to
       the game" for the ability to go stand in a parking lot for a
       half hour instead of watching the band. I spent some time in the
       beergarden both games...there was definitely more people week 2,
       it will take time to grow (and if it does, I'd love for it to be
       moved onto the hill at the 50, or even on the side of the
       endzone by the new concessions...being behind the scoreboard
       isn't ideal). I don't know how publicized the beer garden
       is...if not for my season tickets (and a friend pointing it out
       on his), I wouldn't even know its there...they may be taking a
       slow approach to it. And its likely not a "huge" money maker,
       but I bet it brings in at least $1,000 a night...plus secondary
       benefits of maybe slowly drawing a handful of more casual fans
       to the game too.
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