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#Post#: 23234--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: guest260
Date: September 25, 2018, 9:51 am
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Hammer. I had to read this a few times to ensure you stated what
you did. I am a but disappointed in your statement. So now its
the Asians (who make up 24 per cent-compared to the 35 per cent
white at SBU) fault for not coming to the games and of course
they dont like sports? I am guessing you've never been outside
of the country to any Asian sporting events (basketball is
normally PACKED as is Baseball. soccer and now even in China and
Japan football leagues and teams are being played locally with a
lot of success?. I asked SH about two years back why we don't
see more of the SBU Professors at the games (BTW- 68.1 per cent
WHITE and the only time they do is to get some type of
recognition or an award) and he just stated that seems to be an
ongoing issue and for various reasons (probably maybe they just
dont give a rats a$$)
The fact is (as I raised several years back) and others have
stated is that this is just NOT a college sports area, and
really never has been nor WILL be. But if it were not for all
those "Asians" coming to SBU and the boatload of money they
bring in to the University (Charles Wang BTW) we might be still
in a smaller conference with us never competing either
academically or in sports.
#Post#: 23235--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: September 25, 2018, 10:06 am
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I think Hammer has a fair point in regards to ethnicity. I don't
want to turn this into a ethnic war. It may indeed be one of the
factors that affects attendance. But I also think its one of the
factors that can be minimized with relatively less effort if the
proper conditions are in place. I would put myself as an
example...
I attended SBU. I'm a native of the Dominican Republic (known as
a baseball powerhouse). Raised and still live in the Bronx and
part of an ethnic group (Hispanic) which statistically tends to
be more interested in soccer than American football. But hey,
there it goes. I make my 90 minute drive to Stony Brook every
Saturday to catch a football match-up. The point being that you
can find young adults like me that can learn to enjoy the sport
and the atmosphere. If you create a fun atmosphere for the
students they will follow. Its like some sort of positive
feedback loop or "network effect". I didn't know much about
football before attending SBU. But when I attended the freshmen
weekend opening game I was immediately interested.
Those barriers can easily be torn down if you make it fun. At
the end of the day, we all need something to entertain us and
keep us sane. I also noticed that the students that DO attend
the football games tend to be pretty diverse which proves the
point that it is possible to draw a diverse crowd of students.
It all depends whether SBU athletics admins are willing to put
the effort...
Now that I'm pursuing my MBA I realize that proper marketing is
crucial.
#Post#: 23236--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: September 25, 2018, 10:14 am
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i took it as an honest, factual assessment that more white kids
watch and play football than do other others, therefore, it's
more likely that they will show up to games. i think we are all
aware of the contributions to the U from others.
im just happy we are actually talking about the problem in a
frank manner and hopefully, addressing it!
#Post#: 23237--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: guest260
Date: September 25, 2018, 10:18 am
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well then sorry but if that is what you guys think is factual no
need to even raise any other issues. Sad- I am out
#Post#: 23238--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: September 25, 2018, 10:26 am
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--- Quote from: NYstateofmind link ---
>
> well then sorry but if that is what you guys think is factual
no need to even raise any other issues. Sad- I am out
>
--- End Quote ---
We don't want you to leave. No need to take offense. Just
debating points. Lets keep cool and not get carried away. Is
college football more appealing to certain groups? Yeah,
probably. Does that mean we should give up on those groups that
don't traditionally watch college football? No. We can improve
attendance from all student groups. Trust me. With the right
marketing it can be done. Take a look at the student section
this upcoming Saturday and we can notice the crowd is pretty
diverse. That is proof that if SBU admins were to market it
better more kids from all background would come.
Sports are one of those things with the power to get all kinds
of people together. That's why I love them
Why did they remove the podium for the leader of the red zone
(Student section) who led the chants?
why did they ban re-entry for students?
Why is free parking and tailgating for students not allowed in
main lot on game-days?
Why did they basically ban frat-sponsored tailgating?
Why are students not allowed to bring their own food from
outside?
These are the questions we should be asking. How to improve the
student experience...
Its time to cater to our students and potentially future fans.
Yes, it means less money now... but potentially a lot more money
in the future. SBU admins need to get their act together. Until
then, don't expect to see any sellouts
#Post#: 23239--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: September 25, 2018, 10:44 am
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--- Quote from: NYstateofmind link ---
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> Hammer. I had to read this a few times to ensure you stated
what you did. I am a but disappointed in your statement. So now
its the Asians (who make up 24 per cent-compared to the 35 per
cent white at SBU) fault for not coming to the games and of
course they dont like sports? I am guessing you've never been
outside of the country to any Asian sporting events (basketball
is normally PACKED as is Baseball. soccer and now even in China
and Japan football leagues and teams are being played locally
with a lot of success?. I asked SH about two years back why we
don't see more of the SBU Professors at the games (BTW- 68.1 per
cent WHITE and the only time they do is to get some type of
recognition or an award) and he just stated that seems to be an
ongoing issue and for various reasons (probably maybe they just
dont give a rats a$$)
>
> The fact is (as I raised several years back) and others have
stated is that this is just NOT a college sports area, and
really never has been nor WILL be. But if it were not for all
those "Asians" coming to SBU and the boatload of money they
bring in to the University (Charles Wang BTW) we might be still
in a smaller conference with us never competing either
academically or in sports.
>
--- End Quote ---
For the record. I agree with your points too. Very good. Why
aren't our professors backing our winning program? How can we
draw them in? Should we provide them ticket discounts for their
families? should the department have an outreach program to call
them before the season starts to sell them season tickets?
Should we create a preferred section for professors in LaValle
Stadium? Professor game night? Who knows. So many ideas off the
top of my head.
In regards to academic contributions. Asians like all other
student groups have made valuable contributions to the
University. No one is getting singled out here in negative
light. The University wouldn't be what it is today without its
students, alumni, and philanthropist. Charles Wang made seven
figure contributions for the beautiful Wang Center.
#Post#: 23241--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: September 25, 2018, 11:38 am
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--- Quote from: NYstateofmind link ---
>
> Hammer. I had to read this a few times to ensure you stated
what you did. I am a but disappointed in your statement. So now
its the Asians (who make up 24 per cent-compared to the 35 per
cent white at SBU) fault for not coming to the games and of
course they dont like sports? I am guessing you've never been
outside of the country to any Asian sporting events (basketball
is normally PACKED as is Baseball. soccer and now even in China
and Japan football leagues and teams are being played locally
with a lot of success?. I asked SH about two years back why we
don't see more of the SBU Professors at the games (BTW- 68.1 per
cent WHITE and the only time they do is to get some type of
recognition or an award) and he just stated that seems to be an
ongoing issue and for various reasons (probably maybe they just
dont give a rats a$$)
>
> The fact is (as I raised several years back) and others have
stated is that this is just NOT a college sports area, and
really never has been nor WILL be. But if it were not for all
those "Asians" coming to SBU and the boatload of money they
bring in to the University (Charles Wang BTW) we might be still
in a smaller conference with us never competing either
academically or in sports.
>
--- End Quote ---
Don't try and turn this into a hate thing on Asians, because it
clearly is not. I have Asain friends and they don't like
Football.
I was implying about sports at SB, not anything else.
#Post#: 23242--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: September 25, 2018, 11:46 am
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I was a little adamant about posting something like this for
fear of someone taking what I said the wrong way. But because
this a open Forum where we can talk about anything related to
SB, I figured it wouldn't be a issue. I am not going to sit here
all day at work explaining my reasoning. If someone takes
offense to the truth, so be it.
#Post#: 23243--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: guest260
Date: September 25, 2018, 11:58 am
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Cool so then heres my last post. The truth is you made all
sorts of references to Asians but seem to leave out all the
others who dont attend the games since we are normally at around
60 per cent filled (of course without all the freebies). Wonder
if you singled out another minority you would be so applauded?
And this is not the first time on this so called "open forum"
the Asian issue has been raised. Oh and BTW as a FACT you stated
"sports" but nice trying to cover it up. Go back and read your
post. Gotta run, my Chinese food just arrived.
#Post#: 23244--------------------------------------------------
Re: Will the Villanova Game Sell Out the Stadium?
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: September 25, 2018, 12:03 pm
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--- Quote from: NYstateofmind link ---
>
> Cool so then heres my last post. The truth is you made all
sorts of references to Asians but seem to leave out all the
others who dont attend the games since we are normally at around
60 per cent filled (of course without all the freebies). Wonder
if you singled out another minority you would be so applauded?
And this is not the first time on this so called "open forum"
the Asian issue has been raised. Oh and BTW as a FACT you stated
"sports" but nice trying to cover it up. Go back and read your
post. Gotta run, my Chinese food just arrived.
>
--- End Quote ---
Take care. I think you are the racist one. I am not, and I won't
site here to defend what I wrote. A fact is a fact..
Thank you ecasadoSBU. You clearly understand what I was
portraying.
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