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#Post#: 21234--------------------------------------------------
Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: February 4, 2018, 5:11 pm
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UMASS LOWELL
Record: 9-13 (3-6 America East)
Last Game: W, 88-64, at Maine 1/31
Last 10: 3-7
Last Meeting: UMass Lowell 82, Stony Brook 79 (OT); Yeboah
team-high 23; lost six-point lead with 2 1/2 minutes left in
regulation; 10 for 20 on FTs
CM Unofficial Line: Stony Brook -2.5
KenPom RPI: Stony Brook 237, UMass Lowell 306
KenPom Prediction: Stony Brook 77, UMass Lowell 70
Listen/Watch:
TV:
HTML http://www.espn.com/watch/_/id/3273411/umass-lowell-vs-stony-brook
UMass Lowell radio:
HTML http://goriverhawks.com/showcase
Stony Brook radio:
HTML http://www.943theshark.com/listenlive.aspx
Notables:
6-2/210 rsr Jahad Thomas 19.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.7 spg,
.521 FG%
6-1/195 sr Matt Harris 12.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg, .841 FT%, .374 3-pt
FG%
6-3/185 jr Ryan Jones 10.9 ppg, 4.6 rpg, .369 3-pt FG%
6-4/190 so Rinardo Perry 9.2 ppg
6-7/225 jr Josh Gantz 8.2 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.1 spg, 1.1 bpg, .480
FG%
All right, we've plummeted in that territory where we run the
risk of playing (edit) Vermont in the first round of the
conference tournament. We're in the 7 spot now by virtue of the
buzzer-beating win over Maine, and would climb to 6 if we
prevail on Thursday, leapfrogging the River Hawks. Any situation
where you avoid Vermont in the 1/8 game gives us a least a
little hope of making some noise – UMBC, Hartford, Albany, we've
all been in games with them. The 4/5 game it all but impossible
to get to the way we're playing and with UNH two games up with
six to go.
Lowell has rounded into shape a bit, having won three of its
last four after starting the year 0-5 in conference. They're
coming off a 24-point drubbing at Maine, which is a good win no
matter what. Thomas was his usual stat sheet stuffer, going for
19, 13 and 6.
One guy to watch out for is this freshman Obadiah Noel, who's
coming off a 10-point, seven-rebound night against Maine. He
went for double digits in all three Maine wins, and didn't in
their six losses. His season high is a 19-point night in a loss
to Central Connecticut State. On the year, Noel has won three AE
Rookie of the Week honors, one better than a few players,
including Olaniyi. Maybe that turns into a nice little battle
over the next three years.
In a season with a million lineup changes, I think we're going
to see Olaniyi, Yeboah and Iroegbu take us down the home
stretch. As I said in the Hartford recap, those guys just look
like they want it more than the others. Granted, shots weren't
going down as frequently as we'd have liked, but I want guys
whose actions show that they haven't given up.
#Post#: 21235--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: February 5, 2018, 10:25 am
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I might be wrong (and I guess this is part of the conversation
this year for us) but I don't think the men play an 8/9 game. I
think the AE women do, however. For the men I think they simply
*ahem* do not invite the last place team to the party.
Anyone know, is that correct?
#Post#: 21236--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: February 5, 2018, 10:45 am
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--- Quote from: Moveitfred link ---
>
> I might be wrong (and I guess this is part of the conversation
this year for us) but I don't think the men play an 8/9 game. I
think the AE women do, however. For the men I think they simply
*ahem* do not invite the last place team to the party.
>
> Anyone know, is that correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
I wondered the same thing, but simply guessed that they'd follow
the same format as the women. I can't think of a good reason why
they wouldn't.
#Post#: 21237--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: February 5, 2018, 10:56 am
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--- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
>
> [quote author=Moveitfred link=topic=677.msg21235#msg21235
date=1517847943]
> I might be wrong (and I guess this is part of the conversation
this year for us) but I don't think the men play an 8/9 game. I
think the AE women do, however. For the men I think they simply
*ahem* do not invite the last place team to the party.
>
> Anyone know, is that correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
I wondered the same thing, but simply guessed that they'd follow
the same format as the women. I can't think of a good reason why
they wouldn't.
[/quote]
Correct. Last place team in the AE goes golfing. Their season is
over..
#Post#: 21238--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: February 5, 2018, 12:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=677.msg21236#msg21236
date=1517849149]
> [quote author=Moveitfred link=topic=677.msg21235#msg21235
date=1517847943]
> I might be wrong (and I guess this is part of the conversation
this year for us) but I don't think the men play an 8/9 game. I
think the AE women do, however. For the men I think they simply
*ahem* do not invite the last place team to the party.
>
> Anyone know, is that correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
I wondered the same thing, but simply guessed that they'd follow
the same format as the women. I can't think of a good reason why
they wouldn't.
[/quote]
Correct. Last place team in the AE goes golfing. Their season is
over..
[/quote]
Sent a note to the AE, which confirmed this. No 8/9 game.
#Post#: 21243--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: February 5, 2018, 11:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
>
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=677.msg21237#msg21237
date=1517849780]
> [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=677.msg21236#msg21236
date=1517849149]
> [quote author=Moveitfred link=topic=677.msg21235#msg21235
date=1517847943]
> I might be wrong (and I guess this is part of the conversation
this year for us) but I don't think the men play an 8/9 game. I
think the AE women do, however. For the men I think they simply
*ahem* do not invite the last place team to the party.
>
> Anyone know, is that correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
I wondered the same thing, but simply guessed that they'd follow
the same format as the women. I can't think of a good reason why
they wouldn't.
[/quote]
Correct. Last place team in the AE goes golfing. Their season is
over..
[/quote]
Sent a note to the AE, which confirmed this. No 8/9 game.
[/quote]
Good. There shouldn't be. I even laugh at the P5 conferences who
invite all 14 teams to the tourney sometimes. At least there
those are stronger programs who have a shot at the at large. At
the low-mid major level, there's really no good reason your
conference tourney should go past 8 teams. I'd argue it should
be that way in general. Make the regular season at least mean
something.
#Post#: 21244--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: February 6, 2018, 7:32 am
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--- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
>
> [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=677.msg21238#msg21238
date=1517855477]
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=677.msg21237#msg21237
date=1517849780]
> [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=677.msg21236#msg21236
date=1517849149]
> [quote author=Moveitfred link=topic=677.msg21235#msg21235
date=1517847943]
> I might be wrong (and I guess this is part of the conversation
this year for us) but I don't think the men play an 8/9 game. I
think the AE women do, however. For the men I think they simply
*ahem* do not invite the last place team to the party.
>
> Anyone know, is that correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
I wondered the same thing, but simply guessed that they'd follow
the same format as the women. I can't think of a good reason why
they wouldn't.
[/quote]
Correct. Last place team in the AE goes golfing. Their season is
over..
[/quote]
Sent a note to the AE, which confirmed this. No 8/9 game.
[/quote]
Good. There shouldn't be. I even laugh at the P5 conferences who
invite all 14 teams to the tourney sometimes. At least there
those are stronger programs who have a shot at the at large. At
the low-mid major level, there's really no good reason your
conference tourney should go past 8 teams. I'd argue it should
be that way in general. Make the regular season at least mean
something.
[/quote]
I'd even limit it to four teams. It's not in any weak
conference's best interest to have a "lucky" weak team sneak
into the NCAAs just to embarrass itself and the conference.
#Post#: 21256--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: February 8, 2018, 7:51 am
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--- Quote from: ry1nik link ---
>
> [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=677.msg21243#msg21243
date=1517893901]
> [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=677.msg21238#msg21238
date=1517855477]
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=677.msg21237#msg21237
date=1517849780]
> [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=677.msg21236#msg21236
date=1517849149]
> [quote author=Moveitfred link=topic=677.msg21235#msg21235
date=1517847943]
> I might be wrong (and I guess this is part of the conversation
this year for us) but I don't think the men play an 8/9 game. I
think the AE women do, however. For the men I think they simply
*ahem* do not invite the last place team to the party.
>
> Anyone know, is that correct?
>
--- End Quote ---
I wondered the same thing, but simply guessed that they'd follow
the same format as the women. I can't think of a good reason why
they wouldn't.
[/quote]
Correct. Last place team in the AE goes golfing. Their season is
over..
[/quote]
Sent a note to the AE, which confirmed this. No 8/9 game.
[/quote]
Good. There shouldn't be. I even laugh at the P5 conferences who
invite all 14 teams to the tourney sometimes. At least there
those are stronger programs who have a shot at the at large. At
the low-mid major level, there's really no good reason your
conference tourney should go past 8 teams. I'd argue it should
be that way in general. Make the regular season at least mean
something.
[/quote]
I'd even limit it to four teams. It's not in any weak
conference's best interest to have a "lucky" weak team sneak
into the NCAAs just to embarrass itself and the conference.
[/quote]
I agree; also, devalues the worth of the regular season. The
converse argument, I presume, would be that half the teams would
be playing their freshman kids now, since their seasons would be
realistically over already.
#Post#: 21257--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: February 8, 2018, 9:07 am
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this is the way everything is headed. this player is all this,
all that. everyone is all-conference. hundreds of all america
selections. tournaments dilute with larger fields, more play in
games (which essentially is a bye for the seeded teams), etc.
No one is left out so no one feels bad.
#Post#: 21258--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 25: vs. UMass Lowell 2/8
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: February 8, 2018, 9:17 am
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
>
> this is the way everything is headed. this player is all
this, all that. everyone is all-conference. hundreds of all
america selections. tournaments dilute with larger fields, more
play in games (which essentially is a bye for the seeded teams),
etc. No one is left out so no one feels bad.
>
--- End Quote ---
Don't forget social media cred, too. Deep 3s and tomahawk jams
make for some pretty cool posts. Box outs for rebounds and short
jumpers off the glass, not so much.
Hey, hoping for a barn-burner tonight with a lot at stake for
those 6/7/8 AE tournament seeds!
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