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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: February 4, 2018, 12:04 pm
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> [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=676.msg21222#msg21222
date=1517732724]
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> All things considered, we had a good run from 09-2016, so I
really can't complain too much.
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Guess only time will tell, but wondering if this year is a
down-year blip or perhaps where this program is and we're in for
a long rebuild. In hindsight it feels more and more like a lot
of energy went into the Warney run-up that squeaked us into one
tournament, and maybe last year we were just lucky to have a
supreme floor leader who willed us to a bunch of wins in close
games.
In the best cases players grow and mature at a reasonable rate,
and I have a hard time imagining the returning players at SBU in
the near future (no matter the freshman coming in) suddenly
hanging with the always top two programs or pretty much the
entire Hartford team coming back.
Kudos to Hartford. They look good this year, and I really hope
somebody can push UVM at least a little bit down the stretch.
Yeah, a lot of down faces and frustration among SBU players
*and* coaches right now. For anyone still hanging around to
watch the final games this year, feels like it's going to be
more of the same.
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We had turned the corner as a program and began competing for
the AE before Warney got here though. Maybe it's the players,
the coaching, or both that are missing right now, but we won't
be down long. We have the largest athletic budget in this
conference by a considerable margin and have great facilities,
and a great athletic reputation. We're playing in the America
East, not the Big East. We won't be down for very long. These
next couple seasons will be rough I'd imagine, but we'll get
this thing turned around before long. The football team will
just have to step up and carry the banner for the university
(which is how it should be anyway).
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: February 4, 2018, 12:13 pm
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> anyone want to talk about our three point game? you know i do
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I posted in the UMBC thread they were at .342, and now they're
at .333. Of course this is for the year, and this continual drop
is magnified recently against some okay/average percentages
early on.
This is flat out just a very poor shooting team. What about our
mid-range game? Our layup game? Heck, even our dunk game (if
such a stat existed, we might even have the worst dunk
percentage in the country!). The beginning of the game last
night was simply laughable in terms of SBU misses, but was
anyone surprised?
Just out of curiosity I went back to what seems like it was the
beginning of the end this season--The Norfolk game. SBU's
shooting percentages first half vs second half were:
FG/3pt/FT
46%/44%/89% (yeah!) vs 26%/18%/56% (clank...). Just seems
indicative of about everything since. They fall behind and try
to shoot their way back, but they can't shoot. Vicious cycle of
failure.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: February 4, 2018, 12:18 pm
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yeah but the % is only half the story, right. we missed 28
shots that were low % to begin with.
we defer right to the desperation shot. no attempt to even pass
or penetrate and force the defense to play us. its like a
pickup game of high school all stars just wanting to shoot shoot
shoot. no one wants to rebound or get physical.
im not saying this would work- if we were to play slow and
steady and take high percentage shots and keep the defense
honest- but heck isnt worth a try? let's see what happens
maybe???
or are we ok missing 28 of those desperation shots in front of
3500 fans against hartford?
PS loss 17 is coming against UML
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: February 4, 2018, 1:23 pm
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Like Checkmate has said, I don't think we're going to see any
radical changes this season beyond stuff like what we saw last
night with some new starters, but overall minutes and approach
to games and shooting won't change.
I'm not saying this is the right move, but my best guess is this
in terms of hopes/philosophy for what's left:
As poor as they've been, SBU has not (yet) been blown out in the
AE. You could argue that with a few breaks and a few shots
falling we've been *right there* about every game. Hey, I'm not
saying I'd be convinced by that argument, but I think you could
make it and from a program approach standpoint it's probably the
safest/best argument to make right now. Keep on with what you
think is the right thing to do.
So you keep plugging along and what happens?
SBU loses the rest of its games. Quite possible, and of course
worst case scenario. Okay, so you say to the masses "We had some
tough breaks, played a lot of young guys without experience, and
need to get better at X, Y, Z...."
But what if, just what if, especially come AE playoffs the trend
shifts and SBU starts hitting just average percentages and doing
a few more things right? Possible, right? And if that happens
(AE remember) they're right back to maybe winning a first round
game (if they don't draw UVM) and we think "Okay, well they
ended on a higher note...." Or, they super-duper pull things
together and win two games (I'm thinking even if they didn't
draw UVM in game 1 they'd likely get them in a game 2, so this
probably is not at all likely, but still...) and we think, "Wow,
now they over-achieved and something must be good going into
next year!"
Anyway, yeah, rambling but I guess what I'm trying to say is we
ain't going to see anything different this year (probably not
any year with the same HC) and the best hope is playing that
early morning AE Saturday game in March as a "Cinderella team"
on ESPN2 against UVM or UA. Anything less than that and you play
the "we have more work to do" card and come back next year.
But what do *I* think SBU should do in terms of 3 pters? I'd
like it if Ty, Saintel, Mac, Garcia, and Petras (Petras?!!)
never shoot another one all year. I'd like it if Cornish and
Olaniyi each take no more than two wide open ones each game (and
zero is fine). And I'd like it if Yeboah and UC take as many
open ones as they want (heck, why not). If Sekunda comes back,
he can take a few (I'll text him the number allowed if he suits
up this year ;D)
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