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       #Post#: 21220--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: February 3, 2018, 9:15 pm
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       This is a disaster I cant believe what I saw tonight .  Somebody
       better  turn this ship around quickly ,
       #Post#: 21221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: Checkmate
       Date: February 3, 2018, 10:59 pm
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       We just can't shoot or score with kind of consistency.
       Hartford's offense looked like an orchestra and ours like a
       garage band. Hartford just has such a nice nucleus with Lynch,
       Dunne, Carroll and even Blagojevic off the bench. Dunne 39
       minutes, Lynch 36, Carroll 34.
       Hartford cashed in on so many basket cuts either to or through
       Carroll. It was great to see. They ran the same play on back to
       back possessions in a big spot, resulting in two uncontested
       layups. With Pikiell, scoring points was like wringing a towel
       at times, and this feels similar. I don't recall feeling this
       way last year.
       A friend says "if you look at the Kent State playbook from 10
       years ago, we run the exact same plays," suggesting that Ford is
       the brains behind the offense.
       For those who missed it, Boals sent out three freshmen to start
       the game. It didn't have the desired effect. All we did was
       trail 4-2 at the first media timeout, and we didn't score a
       bucket until we were 6:05 in. In the end, though, I like that we
       played the guys who seem like they care the most: Olaniyi 39,
       Yeboah 36, Iroegbu 32. UC's probably our #2 option right now –
       not ideal but at least he's being aggressive. This was Elijah's
       best game. He was all over the place, and he'll be a good player
       for us.
       On the other hand, this was Cornish's worst game. You just sense
       that he's deflated and Boals is frustrated. He got a quick hook
       on a couple of occasions, and sat the last 6-8 minutes in favor
       of McKenzie.
       5 for 16 on threes in the first half; 2 for 19 in the second. 7
       for ***35*** overall. We handily won the turnover battle and
       took 19 more shots than Hartford, yet lost by nine. Pathetic no
       matter how you look at it.
       #Post#: 21222--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
       Date: February 4, 2018, 2:25 am
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       Not watching anymore games this season. The outcome was what I
       expected (a loss), but the reactions in this thread make the
       loss seem even worse than the score would indicate. Not good.
       I'm actually excited for spring sports this season as I believe
       our WLAX team has a legitimate shot at a national title. Even in
       WLAX that'd be a great win for the school. Basketball is
       terrible this season, but even some of the best programs have
       down years. All things considered, we had a good run from
       09-2016, so I really can't complain too much.
       #Post#: 21223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: February 4, 2018, 5:25 am
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       --- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
       >
       > We just can't shoot or score with kind of consistency.
       Hartford's offense looked like an orchestra and ours like a
       garage band. Hartford just has such a nice nucleus with Lynch,
       Dunne, Carroll and even Blagojevic off the bench. Dunne 39
       minutes, Lynch 36, Carroll 34.
       >
       > Hartford cashed in on so many basket cuts either to or through
       Carroll. It was great to see. They ran the same play on back to
       back possessions in a big spot, resulting in two uncontested
       layups. With Pikiell, scoring points was like wringing a towel
       at times, and this feels similar. I don't recall feeling this
       way last year.
       >
       > A friend says "if you look at the Kent State playbook from 10
       years ago, we run the exact same plays," suggesting that Ford is
       the brains behind the offense.
       >
       > For those who missed it, Boals sent out three freshmen to
       start the game. It didn't have the desired effect. All we did
       was trail 4-2 at the first media timeout, and we didn't score a
       bucket until we were 6:05 in. In the end, though, I like that we
       played the guys who seem like they care the most: Olaniyi 39,
       Yeboah 36, Iroegbu 32. UC's probably our #2 option right now –
       not ideal but at least he's being aggressive. This was Elijah's
       best game. He was all over the place, and he'll be a good player
       for us.
       >
       > On the other hand, this was Cornish's worst game. You just
       sense that he's deflated and Boals is frustrated. He got a quick
       hook on a couple of occasions, and sat the last 6-8 minutes in
       favor of McKenzie.
       >
       > 5 for 16 on threes in the first half; 2 for 19 in the second.
       7 for ***35*** overall. We handily won the turnover battle and
       took 19 more shots than Hartford, yet lost by nine. Pathetic no
       matter how you look at it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I like the idea Boals started his Freshmans for this game. It
       just gives you a glimpse how next season is going to be.
       Coach Boals and Ford can't recruit. You saw that tonight with a
       few of them on the floor.I feel like Cornish and McKenzie are
       not D1 players, not by a long shot.. SB has 6 Freshmans coming
       in next seasons.. O'boy, this program is going to be in trouble
       for years to come....
       #Post#: 21224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: OldSeawolf
       Date: February 4, 2018, 8:11 am
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       I read that only 4 former players showed up from the 1977-78
       Final Four team.  Besides Earl Keith, who was inducted into the
       Stony Brook Sports Hall of Fame, does anyone know the other 3
       players that showed up and were honored?
       #Post#: 21225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: Moveitfred
       Date: February 4, 2018, 8:14 am
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       --- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
       >
       >
       > All things considered, we had a good run from 09-2016, so I
       really can't complain too much.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Guess only time will tell, but wondering if this year is a
       down-year blip or perhaps where this program is and we're in for
       a long rebuild. In hindsight it feels more and more like a lot
       of energy went into the Warney run-up that squeaked us into one
       tournament, and maybe last year we were just lucky to have a
       supreme floor leader who willed us to a bunch of wins in close
       games.
       In the best cases players grow and mature at a reasonable rate,
       and I have a hard time imagining the returning players at SBU in
       the near future (no matter the freshman coming in) suddenly
       hanging with the always top two programs or pretty much the
       entire Hartford team coming back.
       Kudos to Hartford. They look good this year, and I really hope
       somebody can push UVM at least a little bit down the stretch.
       Yeah, a lot of down faces and frustration among SBU players
       *and* coaches right now. For anyone still hanging around to
       watch the final games this year, feels like it's going to be
       more of the same.
       #Post#: 21226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: February 4, 2018, 8:45 am
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       I tried to post today's Newsday article of SB media coverage and
       Hofstra media coverage of yesterday game, but this Forum is very
       sensitive and won't allow me, anyway. Hofstra has a full, 2 page
       article  and SB has about 1/5 of a page and about a 25 second
       read. If somebody on this forum has the "know how" with posting
       the two games, please feel free to do so. I find it very sad
       that SB athletics are just sitting back and doing nothing to
       change this problem...
       I feel like this university is going backwards as far a getting
       the brand name out there, win or lose ..
       #Post#: 21227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: OldSeawolf
       Date: February 4, 2018, 9:58 am
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       --- Quote from: Moveitfred link ---
       >
       > [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=676.msg21222#msg21222
       date=1517732724]
       >
       > All things considered, we had a good run from 09-2016, so I
       really can't complain too much.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Guess only time will tell, but wondering if this year is a
       down-year blip or perhaps where this program is and we're in for
       a long rebuild. In hindsight it feels more and more like a lot
       of energy went into the Warney run-up that squeaked us into one
       tournament, and maybe last year we were just lucky to have a
       supreme floor leader who willed us to a bunch of wins in close
       games.
       In the best cases players grow and mature at a reasonable rate,
       and I have a hard time imagining the returning players at SBU in
       the near future (no matter the freshman coming in) suddenly
       hanging with the always top two programs or pretty much the
       entire Hartford team coming back.
       Kudos to Hartford. They look good this year, and I really hope
       somebody can push UVM at least a little bit down the stretch.
       Yeah, a lot of down faces and frustration among SBU players
       *and* coaches right now. For anyone still hanging around to
       watch the final games this year, feels like it's going to be
       more of the same.
       [/quote]
       The team looks lost, the HC looks lost, and we are bewildered.
       We overachieved last year, beyond anyone's expectations, but
       certainly our floor leader was the rock and stabilizing force
       for the team.  Given that Boals inherited a team that lost 4 of
       the starting 5 from the Championship team, I thought he did a
       masterful job, but maybe in retrospect, lots had to due with
       Lucas and Roland, and the leadership that they brought to the
       table.
       As a team, we looked much better in our OOC games than in our
       Conference games this year.  That is, we have regressed as the
       season has progressed.  Is it possible that we are missing
       Sekunda more than we realize?   The horrific shooting from the
       field and FT line begs for a shooter or 2 to emerge.  Not sure
       what the rest of you guys think, but every missed shot and
       turnover seems to be magnified 3x to me.  I guess that's what
       happens when you are struggling as a team unit.
       #Post#: 21228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: February 4, 2018, 10:32 am
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       Our guys again keep looking to the bench guidance . Like what do
       we do now coach and stop self coaching . More than one player
       was coaching on the floor as the game went on  Play the game .
       Our guys are really lost out there . We did look better in
       November and December we have gone backwards since then .
       #Post#: 21229--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: February 4, 2018, 11:44 am
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       anyone want to talk about our three point game?  you know i do
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