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#Post#: 21182--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: February 1, 2018, 10:00 am
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yeah i wasnt sure if those stats were cumulative or not- thanks
for the correction. still a bad story either way!
so for our big, out of 6 shots, all taken from three. nearly
all missed. including the last one.
its implied below but what is the benefit here- no inside
presence, no boards, no scoring, no outside shooting- all
turnovers.
#Post#: 21183--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: February 1, 2018, 10:18 am
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
>
> those teams rebound. those teams have their big (multiple) in
the paint, playing physical, and taking boards. those teams
win. we lost to UML. gimme some stats on where a three pointer
got us a win that propelled us into something other than the CBI
or AE tourney.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes, exactly. Interesting to see the numbers as, obviously, this
is the culture of the game. And while SBU's threes seem horrific
and untimely, statistically they're not too far off what the
whole gang is up to these days. But there are certainly a lot of
other moving and supporting parts to the game not going well for
SBU right now that make cranking up so many threes a
questionable approach.
#Post#: 21184--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: February 1, 2018, 10:25 am
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--- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
>
>
> Just a heads up, Ty took five shots total, all from three.
Zero shots inside the arc. Ty's last-second chuck was the result
of there being no Plan B when Plan A – to get it to Yeboah on
the block – was denied. Just horrible.
>
> And of Lyles' 21 shots, he was 9 for 15 from two, 1 for 6 from
three.
>
--- End Quote ---
That last play out of a timeout really was a horrible
palm-to-forehead moment (especially added to the other recent
games with essentially the same event and outcome). Not only was
the best guess that the ball would go to Yeboah on the block,
but to have what appeared to be the other four players just
standing there and staring at Yeboah with seemingly no other
option discussed was...ugh, just really had me wondering if this
stuff is even practiced, or the SBU players just can't remember,
or if its a youth/poise factor?
#Post#: 21185--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: February 1, 2018, 10:41 am
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why move, when the guy with the ball is just going to shoot? :D
#Post#: 21186--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: February 1, 2018, 10:49 am
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
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> why move, when the guy with the ball is just going to shoot?
:D
>
--- End Quote ---
When the ref was handing over the ball to be in-bounded my
friend whispered, "This is when SBU throws the ball to the other
team."
Well...at least they did get a shot off this game!
#Post#: 21187--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: February 1, 2018, 11:08 am
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sigh.
i know rebounding is an unsexy job. and baby hooks and layups
are the same.
if we cant do that- how about passing? anyone see BC flick the
ball around against our 23 zone???
#Post#: 21188--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: February 1, 2018, 11:44 am
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The most stark difference between us and UMBC was the ball
movement. Did you see the way they swung the ball around?
Because we were stuck were stuck in molasses, we were actually
lucky to be in it late because they had a million open wide-open
looks from three but they didn't go down. Maura and Lyles could
do whatever they want and go wherever they wanted to. We just
don't have those guys.
We are now shooting a league-worst 57.6% from the free throw
line. Fewest makes, third-fewest attempts. Just some killer
misses from UC when were trying to go in front. 42-42, missed
two. Down 58-56, missed two. We were 3 for 10 on free throws in
the second half.
But but but wait it gets worse! If I did the math right ...
Conference totals – first half
3-pointers: 39 for 104 (.375)
Free throws: 42 for 64 (.657)
Conference totals – second half
3-pointers: 27 for 107 (.252)
Free throws: 39 for 77 (.507)
Those are some big-time bricks being thrown up with the game on
the line! I'd love to know what our second half FT totals when
we're up/down two points or tied.
Mac played some good minutes. I could see Maura picking his
pocket from a mile away, and he should have turned it over
underneath another time but instead made a short jumper. A step
forward for him though.
Same for Ochefu. But I'm sure, for no reason imaginable, he
won't get off the bench for the next few games.
#Post#: 21189--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: February 1, 2018, 1:45 pm
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--- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
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> The most stark difference between us and UMBC was the ball
movement. Did you see the way they swung the ball around?
Because we were stuck were stuck in molasses, we were actually
lucky to be in it late because they had a million open wide-open
looks from three but they didn't go down. Maura and Lyles could
do whatever they want and go wherever they wanted to. We just
don't have those guys.
>
> We are now shooting a league-worst 57.6% from the free throw
line. Fewest makes, third-fewest attempts. Just some killer
misses from UC when were trying to go in front. 42-42, missed
two. Down 58-56, missed two. We were 3 for 10 on free throws in
the second half.
>
> But but but wait it gets worse! If I did the math right ...
>
> Conference totals – first half
> 3-pointers: 39 for 104 (.375)
> Free throws: 42 for 64 (.657)
>
> Conference totals – second half
> 3-pointers: 27 for 107 (.252)
> Free throws: 39 for 77 (.507)
>
> Those are some big-time bricks being thrown up with the game
on the line! I'd love to know what our second half FT totals
when we're up/down two points or tied.
>
> Mac played some good minutes. I could see Maura picking his
pocket from a mile away, and he should have turned it over
underneath another time but instead made a short jumper. A step
forward for him though.
>
> Same for Ochefu. But I'm sure, for no reason imaginable, he
won't get off the bench for the next few games.
>
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Word!! I could not have put it any better.
#Post#: 21190--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: February 1, 2018, 1:50 pm
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
>
> sigh.
>
> i know rebounding is an unsexy job. and baby hooks and layups
are the same.
>
> if we cant do that- how about passing? anyone see BC flick
the ball around against our 23 zone???
>
--- End Quote ---
I was discussing this same exact thing with my buddy at the game
yesterday. The ball distribution by UMBC was beautiful. SB was
totally off kilter with that..
#Post#: 21191--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMBC 1/31
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: February 1, 2018, 2:04 pm
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we need more passing and less black holes. share the ball and
our shot selection will improve, along with our %. we need to
be a pass first shoot second team.
staying the course is a recipe for a first round exit. we've
been abysmal in nine conference games; why should i think round
1 at Patrick will be any different.
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