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#Post#: 20587--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 12: at Providence 12/17
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: December 18, 2017, 9:47 am
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i mustve read the boxscore wrong on big east livestats. now
that i check the SB boxscore, yes you are correct.
since you brought it up- in a 2 point loss, yes id love to not
miss seventeen shots from behind the arc. i'd take two of those
back for more high % shots and like my chances.
for attendance, sure there's weather, student disaffection, the
team is struggling, etc.
we've built the arena; we've got the schedule; we've got the
coach; some of the players; but it just aint happening. you'll
only get so many from the local towns, and students either arent
on campus or just have too many distractions.
#Post#: 20588--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 12: at Providence 12/17
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: December 18, 2017, 10:24 am
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--- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
>
> Tough one to swallow; we might lead the country in moral
victories. It would have been nice to have gotten one of these
scalps, particularly UConn or Providence just as something to
hang our hat on regionally. Either would certainly resonate more
with boosters, fans, recruits, etc. And if we got two of them?
Then we're being discussed like Monmouth has been the past
couple years – small school but with some teeth.
>
> Just some costly errors down the stretch in yesterday's game.
It unraveled quickly once they hit us with the press. I expect
we'll see a lot of that this year; it was useless against
Woodhouse but not this year.
>
> Man, if Akwasi had squeezed that rebound late, we'd have been
down one with the final shot. Instead, a steal and a Sekunda
foul (on a great effort play mind you). A real nice tip-in by Ty
on the Cornish miss to tie it though. Ty's peaks and valleys are
unlike any player I can think of in the past.
>
> COB, we actually did make our free throws in this one! 6 for
8! But they were 18 for 25. That disparity is a product of our
lack of inside presence and inability to get to the rack outside
of Cornish. The kid Ashton-Langford is going to be really good
for PC the next three years – he penetrated with ease and filled
in nicely for Cartwright.
>
> Akwasi up to .432 from three, and Sekunda's at .500. Two big
weapons who we need to feed.
>
> On another topic, we are currently fifth in the America East
in attendance.
>
> Vermont 2,814
> Binghamton 2,506
> Albany 2,462
> Hartford 1,466
> Stony Brook 1,440
>
> That's abysmal, guys. Last year, we finished at 3,221 per
game, or more than double what we're doing now. I know the
students will come out for the conference games, but any
explanation that you can think of otherwise?
>
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Just like football. You win games and fans will show up. SBB is
down mainly because we lost Pikiel and Warney.. But start
winning games again and that will change..
#Post#: 20589--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 12: at Providence 12/17
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: December 18, 2017, 12:03 pm
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--- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
>
>
> On another topic, we are currently fifth in the America East
in attendance.
>
> Vermont 2,814
> Binghamton 2,506
> Albany 2,462
> Hartford 1,466
> Stony Brook 1,440
>
> That's abysmal, guys. Last year, we finished at 3,221 per
game, or more than double what we're doing now. I know the
students will come out for the conference games, but any
explanation that you can think of otherwise?
>
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Yikes, I knew things were sleepy this year but would not have
guessed fifth. Would have thought the arena alone, no matter the
team/record, would draw more in comparison. I have no hard
evidence other than impressions, but probably like a lot of you
I know a few other season ticket holders. Some are neighbors,
and there's not much talk about basketball this year. Eh, they
go if they're free, otherwise the seats sit empty. Something to
do if you've got nothing else to do this year, I'm afraid.
There is also a component for potential growth of being "the
only game in town," which SBU is not and will never be. Like
Gonzaga. I've been to Spokane a couple of times and went to one
Gonzaga game there years ago. Spokane is in the middle of
NOwhere! So you get everyone coming out for games, generally.
This is a very dated reference that I know won't be familiar,
but way back in a previous life there was a similar situation at
Fresno State in CA in the 1980's. That city, those people, also
in the middle of nowhere, where crazy for their Bulldogs. It was
a terrible place to play, as the entire town of farmers got
drunk, rowdy, and packed the arena for every game.
Too much else to do here, including everything in NYC and your
vast array of cable/streaming options from the comfort of your
warm home. Tough nut to crack, no matter the facilities and how
much money you pour in.
#Post#: 20590--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 12: at Providence 12/17
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: December 18, 2017, 2:14 pm
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All good points. Though I don't think we can cite the schedule
as a reason we should be drawing more since most of these games
are on the road. I'd have no problem signing two for one deals
like we did to get these other teams to come to our arena. The
Maryland game wasn't even played on campus but at Nassau.
Hofstra was the only game I really expected a packed house for,
so to not see that is disappointing.
#Post#: 20591--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 12: at Providence 12/17
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: December 18, 2017, 2:33 pm
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i think we keep avoiding the issue.
if IFCU holds over 4k, and we somehow get two THOUSAND locals to
sit in traffic (sometimes on a weeknight) in and out of campus,
we are still HALF full.
or, we can leverage the 25k student body, a chunk of which lives
on campus. this is what successful programs do.
which begs the question. why cannot we get two thousand
students (that's 8%, or 1 of every 12.5) out to a saturday game?
because students arent going to drive from the bronx, or ride
the train from queens, just to go to a college basketball game.
#Post#: 20592--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 12: at Providence 12/17
DIR By: Moveitfred
Date: December 18, 2017, 3:14 pm
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Maybe UVM's got the right idea with their little jr high
gym--keep it small and packed rather than the "build it and they
will come" gamble. I certainly have no idea, and I can tell a
lot of you have a much better pulse on the campus and students.
I just happened to play some ball in a previous life, just
happen to live 5 mins down the road, so I go to games because I
actually like watching college basketball. To get students to
come or the casual nearby resident? Boy, I have no clue other
than, I suppose, there is a natural bump if the team seems
poised for a real shot at the NCAAs.
Of course SBU is not alone when you see all the mostly empty
arenas around the country, people sitting there glued to their
phones while the game is going on...
Like Rodney Dangerfield said: "When I was a kid I got no
respect. When my parents got divorced there was a custody fight
over me... and no one showed up."
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