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2017 Post-mortem
By: ecasadoSBU Date: December 3, 2017, 12:31 pm
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Express your feelings. Let em all out.
Now is the appropriate time to bash the coach if you want to...
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: ecasadoSBU Date: December 3, 2017, 12:42 pm
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Overall, I'm very satisfied of what the Seawolves achieved this
season. As a fan we always want more wins and more success. But
within the realm of reality we overachieved for the 2017 season.
In August if you would've told me that we were going to finish
10-3 I would've called you crazy.
All the predictions from the "football guys in the media" made
our outlook grim.
This 2017 is special for several reasons IMHO:
(1) it placed and solidified Stony Brook in the map as a top
tier CAA program. This should hopefully do wonders for our
program in terms of recruiting and getting more wins. We may
have entered the CAA several years ago. But we finally know what
it takes to be at the top
(2) It made us nationally relevant again within the FCS. This is
also part of brand building. If we make the playoffs in the next
few years there is no doubt that the committee will look at us
in a better light and give us better seeding. (Look at UNH how
they got by an easy UCA 2nd round Victory)
(3) It gives us the positive momentum that demonstrate to our
fans that it is indeed worth investing in Stony Brook football.
Hopefully with the Indoor Practice Facility we can only grow
faster and stronger. Hopefully the local community and students
also turn out to games in larger numbers
Big Big year. Very happy as a fan.
LETS GO SEAWOLVES!!!
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: Chairman of the Board Date: December 3, 2017, 3:42 pm
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while i completely agree with the above- #1 can change quickly
if next season is abysmal, followed by a forgetful 2019.
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: Seawolf97 Date: December 3, 2017, 4:00 pm
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Losing a lot in experience and talent . Lets see what 2018
brings especially with the QB situation . Many of these hot
prospects are still 2 or 3 years from playing using our system
of red shirts . That's forever in college sports.
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: December 3, 2017, 6:48 pm
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Excellent season, far exceeded my expectations and as mentioned
firmly ends the "why were they added" talk about our program to
the conference. Expect an uptick in publicity, recruiting, and
fan support with these wins this year, plus the IPF coming next
year. Above all else, I hope we build on this and get more fans
in the stadium. I've never heard a place get so loud for an FCS
game yesterday and that wasn't even a capacity crowd. We need
that at Lavalle and we can get it if the university can create a
game day experience that gets the students to come out and put
out a product on the field worth watching.
For 2018, we do lose a lot no doubt and the schedule gets much
harder. I NEVER expect us to revert back to being a five win
team despite these losses. I'm going to assume Carbone returns
for his final season, so having your QB return allowing some
stability will always be a benefit all things being equal. If
these recruits come in and light the place on fire in camp, by
all means play them over Joe, but otherwise we're probably best
sticking with him. I'm hoping for yet another off-season of
improvement by Joe.
I'm setting my initial expectations at six wins next year. We
lose a lot and the schedule gets tougher, but this is still a
talented team. If we're going to make the deep playoff run,
we've got to beat the elite teams at some point. Six isn't
unreasonable at all. Reverting back to five wins yet again will
probably get me calling for certain people's heads again, but
we'll see.
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: sbufan Date: December 3, 2017, 7:57 pm
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I don't really expect the team to take a step back next year.
The graduating class had a lot of starts for us, but they were
(i believe) the first CAA recruiting class. I think theres some
good talent in the more recent classes waiting in the wings.
Also I think it's only 8 of this years starters were seniors.
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: iBOsbu Date: December 3, 2017, 8:24 pm
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[quote author=sbufan link=topic=656.msg20415#msg20415
date=1512352634]
I don't really expect the team to take a step back next year.
The graduating class had a lot of starts for us, but they were
(i believe) the first CAA recruiting class. I think theres some
good talent in the more recent classes waiting in the wings.
Also I think it's only 8 of this years starters were seniors.
[/quote]
Agreed. Recruiting has only improved year to year. It’s bound to
reflect soon. In OOC against FCS opponents, we should go 2-0
(Bryant and Fordham). Focusing on CAA schedule, I expect at
least 5-3 conference record. We will be playing all the top
teams next year excluding Elon. 7 wins may be good enough to get
us back to playoffs. 8 wins will be a lock.
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: December 3, 2017, 11:07 pm
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[quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=656.msg20416#msg20416
date=1512354257]
Agreed. Recruiting has only improved year to year. It’s bound to
reflect soon. In OOC against FCS opponents, we should go 2-0
(Bryant and Fordham). Focusing on CAA schedule, I expect at
least 5-3 conference record. We will be playing all the top
teams next year excluding Elon. 7 wins may be good enough to get
us back to playoffs. 8 wins will be a lock.
[/quote]
I'm with you on that one. I've mentioned how the schedule next
year is significantly harder. I did a breakdown of who we should
beat and who we'd need to take games against if we're going to
get back to the playoffs:
Should/must wins. We should definitely win all of these if we're
going to get back to the playoffs:
Bryant, Fordham, Towson, Rhode Island, Albany
If we're talking about playoffs, then we'd need seven wins and
would have to pick up two of the following:
Air Force, Richmond, Villanova, New Hampshire, James Madison,
Delaware
Win two of them, and we'll be in the conversation for a playoff
spot. Win three and we're a lock and quite possibly get a seed.
Win four of these and we definitely get the seed we got screwed
out of this year. We've played well against option teams in the
past and beat Army before, so I'm not ruling out the Air Force
game as unwinnable. Having the month to camp prepare for that
one helps.
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: Hammertime Date: December 4, 2017, 12:17 am
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=656.msg20417#msg20417
date=1512364041]
[quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=656.msg20416#msg20416
date=1512354257]
Agreed. Recruiting has only improved year to year. It’s bound to
reflect soon. In OOC against FCS opponents, we should go 2-0
(Bryant and Fordham). Focusing on CAA schedule, I expect at
least 5-3 conference record. We will be playing all the top
teams next year excluding Elon. 7 wins may be good enough to get
us back to playoffs. 8 wins will be a lock.
[/quote]
I'm with you on that one. I've mentioned how the schedule next
year is significantly harder. I did a breakdown of who we should
beat and who we'd need to take games against if we're going to
get back to the playoffs:
Should/must wins. We should definitely win all of these if we're
going to get back to the playoffs:
Bryant, Fordham, Towson, Rhode Island, Albany
If we're talking about playoffs, then we'd need seven wins and
would have to pick up two of the following:
Air Force, Richmond, Villanova, New Hampshire, James Madison,
Delaware
Win two of them, and we'll be in the conversation for a playoff
spot. Win three and we're a lock and quite possibly get a seed.
Win four of these and we definitely get the seed we got screwed
out of this year. We've played well against option teams in the
past and beat Army before, so I'm not ruling out the Air Force
game as unwinnable. Having the month to camp prepare for that
one helps.
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Air Force is no Army when it comes to Football. They blew to
doors off of VMI this year, ( no pun intended) 62-0... I just
dont see us beating them next year..
Richmond, UNH, Del, Villanova are all possible wins..
Everything depends on our QB. Carbone is most likely our starter
next season again regardless if a 5 star QB transfer from
Alabama walks through SB doors or not.. If Carbone improves and
gets better, we will be back in the playoffs. If we have the
same Carbone as this year, it's a crap shoot. I say that because
Carbone will be without his senior WR starters.. And we all know
how he likes to target Bolden all season, and when Bolden went
down, Jackson tried to replace him and it wasnt the same
chemistry..
Carbone is a one dimensional QB. He had his one favorite
receiver and was zoned into that guy. When he went down Carbone
was lost and unsure of himself on the field.. We saw that when
Bolden went down late in the season. I hope that was a learning
curve for Carbone. Never rely on one guy on your team to be the
favorite.That is PAL league stuff!
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Re: 2017 Post-mortem
By: iBOsbu Date: December 16, 2017, 5:56 pm
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Gotta tell you, our defense was much better at Harrisonburg than
SDSU defense.
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