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Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: ry1nik Date: December 2, 2017, 7:31 pm
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[quote author=Grownman link=topic=653.msg20383#msg20383
date=1512258510]
I watch the SB jmu game coache p took these young men out to
battle and didn't have a game plan you can tell the difference
in the play calling from the start. coache p knows nothing about
coaching as soon as the game started i new we were in trouble
the sad thing is these young men went 10-2 and you took them
down to JMU and embarrassed them in one of the biggest games in
there lives
[/quote]
Having a quarterback throw five interceptions doesn’t help.
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Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: December 2, 2017, 8:05 pm
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I got back home from the game about an hour ago and I gotta say.
The score won't show it, but that was one Hell of an effort by
the defense (first drive aside, I don't know what the hell that
was). Without them this game is a 60+ point blowout. We shut
down their run game and kept up with JMU in every team
statistical category except the big one...
Turnovers.
You can't throw FIVE interceptions and win the game. Throwing
five picks and only losing by 19 to the #1 team in the country
is a win in my book. The defense played their hearts out so hats
off to them. I saw every play of that game. At no point did I
feel like we were over-matched and didn't belong on the same
field with them. Our guys were physical, and we were able to
sporadically move the ball through the air. It's just every time
we got a drive going and go some momentum, BAM, turnover. We'd
give the ball right back to JMU with a short field. Other than
that though? We competed with them beginning to end. It's so
frustrating to see that box score though and see that we could
have kept this close or even won it were it not for those
turnovers.
JMU is what we could be if we had a more accurate QB. Really.
The only difference between them and us is Schor can throw the
ball more accurately with some zip on it and hit his receivers.
I don't want to turn this into a bash Carbone fest though. He
still took a massive step forward last year to this year.
Also their stadium is incredible and screams big time. They've
also got a great game day atmosphere and got LOUD when they
needed to. We can emulate a lot of what they do. I was happy to
see so many Seawolves make the trip down. We had a good crowd
there (my opinion).
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Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: Hammertime Date: December 2, 2017, 8:27 pm
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[quote author=ry1nik link=topic=653.msg20384#msg20384
date=1512264702]
[quote author=Grownman link=topic=653.msg20383#msg20383
date=1512258510]
I watch the SB jmu game coache p took these young men out to
battle and didn't have a game plan you can tell the difference
in the play calling from the start. coache p knows nothing about
coaching as soon as the game started i new we were in trouble
the sad thing is these young men went 10-2 and you took them
down to JMU and embarrassed them in one of the biggest games in
there lives
[/quote]
Having a quarterback throw five interceptions doesn’t help.
[/quote]
Carbone rear his ugly head out in this game. it felt like the
2016 Carbone we all grown to love... Just think, he will be our
starter again next year.. I feel for the rest of the team,
especially the defense guys!!
Coach P is horrendous. More good news. P contract will be
renewed again next season....
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Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: Hammertime Date: December 2, 2017, 8:30 pm
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[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=653.msg20364#msg20364
date=1512242006]
Early observation: our corners need to start playing their
wideouts on the scrimmage line. Giving them 10-15 free yards was
an issue on that 1st drive.
[/quote]
This was a problem all season. Every game the corners would give
the WR huge cushion..
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Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: OldSeawolf Date: December 2, 2017, 8:37 pm
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=653.msg20385#msg20385
date=1512266759]
I got back home from the game about an hour ago and I gotta say.
The score won't show it, but that was one Hell of an effort by
the defense (first drive aside, I don't know what the hell that
was). Without them this game is a 60+ point blowout. We shut
down their run game and kept up with JMU in every team
statistical category except the big one...
Turnovers.
You can't throw FIVE interceptions and win the game. Throwing
five picks and only losing by 19 to the #1 team in the country
is a win in my book. The defense played their hearts out so hats
off to them. I saw every play of that game. At no point did I
feel like we were over-matched and didn't belong on the same
field with them. Our guys were physical, and we were able to
sporadically move the ball through the air. It's just every time
we got a drive going and go some momentum, BAM, turnover. We'd
give the ball right back to JMU with a short field. Other than
that though? We competed with them beginning to end. It's so
frustrating to see that box score though and see that we could
have kept this close or even won it were it not for those
turnovers.
JMU is what we could be if we had a more accurate QB. Really.
The only difference between them and us is Schor can throw the
ball more accurately with some zip on it and hit his receivers.
I don't want to turn this into a bash Carbone fest though. He
still took a massive step forward last year to this year.
Also their stadium is incredible and screams big time. They've
also got a great game day atmosphere and got LOUD when they
needed to. We can emulate a lot of what they do. I was happy to
see so many Seawolves make the trip down. We had a good crowd
there (my opinion).
[/quote]
Good analysis, and I agree. D was awesome except for that first
drive, where we played off the receivers for some reason and let
them march down the field. Not to pick on him, but Carbone was
way off today. When Clayton Kershaw is giving up a lot of runs
in an important playoff game, he was replaced. I would have
done the same thing in the 2nd half with Carbone. Not only was
he missing his receivers, but he was missing badly. Just not
his day, and I would have brought one of the kids in to shake
things up. Of course, it didn't help that Bolden wasn't on the
field. I was also surprised at how few touches Bedell and
Liotine had (17 combined), particularly with Bolden out. Good
season overall, but disappointing finish, not that anyone really
thought we could beat them at their place. Definitely something
to build on for next season.
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Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: December 2, 2017, 8:55 pm
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That's the thing though. I thought the game would have been
closer and that we could have snuck out of there with a win.
With better QB play, I think we could have won it. JMU couldn't
run the ball at all and they had as many total yards as we did
despite us gifting them the ball over and over again.
We're losing 18 seniors (maybe 19?), that's a TON of experience
to lose. Many of our guys this year were 5 and 6 year players.
We did rotate a lot of guys and we do have Carbone returning
again, but I expect a significant step back. I have higher
expectations than five wins, but don't be surprised if that's
where we end up. I expect six.
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Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: Hammertime Date: December 2, 2017, 9:17 pm
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=653.msg20395#msg20395
date=1512269707]
That's the thing though. I thought the game would have been
closer and that we could have snuck out of there with a win.
With better QB play, I think we could have won it. JMU couldn't
run the ball at all and they had as many total yards as we did
despite us gifting them the ball over and over again.
We're losing 18 seniors (maybe 19?), that's a TON of experience
to lose. Many of our guys this year were 5 and 6 year players.
We did rotate a lot of guys and we do have Carbone returning
again, but I expect a significant step back. I have higher
expectations than five wins, but don't be surprised if that's
where we end up. I expect six.
[/quote]
Way, way to soon to predict next year. May be we get lucky and a
FBS QB transfer falls in our lap..i can't even look thst far
out.. this team exceeded my expectation this year so, you never
know..
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Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: Wolffan Date: December 3, 2017, 5:34 am
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[quote author=ry1nik link=topic=653.msg20384#msg20384
date=1512264702]
[quote author=Grownman link=topic=653.msg20383#msg20383
date=1512258510]
I watch the SB jmu game coache p took these young men out to
battle and didn't have a game plan you can tell the difference
in the play calling from the start. coache p knows nothing about
coaching as soon as the game started i new we were in trouble
the sad thing is these young men went 10-2 and you took them
down to JMU and embarrassed them in one of the biggest games in
there lives
[/quote]
Having a quarterback throw five interceptions doesn’t help.
[/quote]
Agreed, as someone else noted, five turnovers and losing by just
19 to JMU tells me our defense played really well. Defense made
the right adjustments after the opening JMU drive. Total yards
about even. Carbone will work hard again this off season and
will use this for motivation. (For the first time all year, he
reverted to the back-footed throwing and underestimating
defensive speed issues of last year.) Will be tough to replace
our graduates - this year we won most of the close games thanks
to them.
Gotta be honest, even if everything had broken right (all kids
healthy, great QB play, dynamic offensive game plan, no
penalties, etc) JMU is a hard-to-beat FCS juggernaut right now.
All in all, a terrific football year for SBU.
#Post#: 20411--------------------------------------------------
Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: guest260 Date: December 3, 2017, 4:51 pm
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I thought the boys did well most of the game- but also had spots
where we just lost our discipline -and yes cost us valuable time
we needed. The first series on D was ugly, and clearly they had
our numbers on our Legion of Wolves. As someone else stated we
give the short game passes up way too many times. Its almost 8
yards of non pressure on the receivers and on a normal team that
is tough- but when you are playing the number one team in the
country you have to make some adjustments.
#11 I hope gets some extra coaching in the offseason because he
plays with his head not in front of the receiver, and he gets
burned a lot on the out patterns and a couple of penalties (and
its been evident all season).
The two main GOOFY plays that hurt us was #75 going offsides on
the FG and really is a discipline/focus issue along with #2
throwing a cheap shot and getting thrown out. Others guys on the
D line played well and pressured the QB a lot. That was awesome.
Linebackers were OUTSTANDING!
On Offense, clearly Carbone had a horrible day and showed he
missed Bolden. I (and others in the stands) were puzzled as to
where he was throwing the balls and he just looked really out of
it. As to the five picks- three of them belong on him, but the
other 2 were 50/50 balls, and their guys simply wanted to make
the play more than we did. His throws down on the out patterns
were not at all sharp.
The O line was great in at least Carbone had some time.
I hope Thompson (or someone else) can finally see that #5 does
not belong back on Punt returns. On 4 occasions yesterday, he
continued to NOT play a live ball in the air and hurt us in
field position (and this has been going on most of the year),
and on the other caught the ball at the 5-which seemed to be
headed into the end zone.
Thompson needs to find SOMEONE anyone who can kick a FG in the
45 plus area. I counted 5 kickers on the team (two are schollys)
and the WO- kicker is now the starter, but does not have a leg
past 40? Or at least he has not convinced Coach P, or Coach T he
can hit them in the game. We could have used that yesterday, if
nothing more than to get some points on the board the first
half. Any points against the number one team can only help.
For Carbone, I really don't see him wanting to come back next
year (especially if he graduates this May) with the lack of
personnel he will have to throw to he might just call it a day.
But all in all they did a great job all season long and what no
one can take away from them was their record 10-3. To me if
anyone would have "predicted" this back in August they would
have been laughed off the board. Merry Christmas and Happy New
Year!
#Post#: 20515--------------------------------------------------
Re: 12/2 - @ JMU 2pm (FCS 2nd Round)
By: Grownman Date: December 11, 2017, 1:11 pm
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Iam still trying to figure out how we went 10-3 and no one was
selected to the all-star game
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