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#Post#: 19620--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: November 5, 2017, 7:44 pm
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I forgot Eastern Washington lost. Them along with NAU's loss
really opens things up for us a bit more with the Big Sky
cannibalizing itself. Weber St. is right there in the thick of
things too though as they're 7-2 as well, but they played a D2
team so we'd have the edge over them in that respect.
#Post#: 19621--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: Grownman
Date: November 6, 2017, 5:06 am
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I've been following SB for the past 3years and i said it and i
will say it again COACH P play's to win but coaches to lose i
will give you and example. why are you not playing your best
player's you have one of your best defensive player's on kick
return if he gets hurt that would be a big blow to your defense
your running game is predictable i watch this time after time 8
sometimes 9 defender's in the box's and he still runs the ball
risking injury to your backs you have 6'8 tightens utilize them
you have one of the best backs in the conference you have some
of the best receivers but most of all you have the #1 defense.
this school hasn't had a winning season in years. Your in a
playoff hunt and this coach is playing like this is just another
game when you really look at it i believe the team wants to win
but the coaches don't know how to win COACH P. I think you need
to dig deep down inside your soul put all this personal s_ _ t
to side leave your feelings and emotions at home grow some
balls and get out there and take this team to that 🏆
#Post#: 19622--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: November 6, 2017, 5:45 am
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--- Quote from: Grownman link ---
>
> I've been following SB for the past 3years and i said it and i
will say it again COACH P play's to win but coaches to lose i
will give you and example. why are you not playing your best
player's you have one of your best defensive player's on kick
return if he gets hurt that would be a big blow to your defense
your running game is predictable i watch this time after time 8
sometimes 9 defender's in the box's and he still runs the ball
risking injury to your backs you have 6'8 tightens utilize them
you have one of the best backs in the conference you have some
of the best receivers but most of all you have the #1 defense.
this school hasn't had a winning season in years. Your in a
playoff hunt and this coach is playing like this is just another
game when you really look at it i believe the team wants to win
but the coaches don't know how to win COACH P. I think you need
to dig deep down inside your soul put all this personal s_ _ t
to side leave your feelings and emotions at home grow some
balls and get out there and take this team to that 🏆
>
--- End Quote ---
Coach P will never change his style of football. I am very
concerned his contract will be renewed when we make the
playoffs. How can Heilbron not renew?? I want nothing more to
see SB go deep into the playoofs, but I know that will only seal
his new long term contract.
#Post#: 19624--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: November 6, 2017, 8:52 am
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
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> [quote author=Grownman link=topic=636.msg19621#msg19621
date=1509966377]
> I've been following SB for the past 3years and i said it and i
will say it again COACH P play's to win but coaches to lose i
will give you and example. why are you not playing your best
player's you have one of your best defensive player's on kick
return if he gets hurt that would be a big blow to your defense
your running game is predictable i watch this time after time 8
sometimes 9 defender's in the box's and he still runs the ball
risking injury to your backs you have 6'8 tightens utilize them
you have one of the best backs in the conference you have some
of the best receivers but most of all you have the #1 defense.
this school hasn't had a winning season in years. Your in a
playoff hunt and this coach is playing like this is just another
game when you really look at it i believe the team wants to win
but the coaches don't know how to win COACH P. I think you need
to dig deep down inside your soul put all this personal s_ _ t
to side leave your feelings and emotions at home grow some
balls and get out there and take this team to that 🏆
>
--- End Quote ---
Coach P will never change his style of football. I am very
concerned his contract will be renewed when we make the
playoffs. How can Heilbron not renew?? I want nothing more to
see SB go deep into the playoofs, but I know that will only seal
his new long term contract.
[/quote]
Very good point that didn't come into my mind until now. This
was a contract year for Coach P. It was the perfect storm of
several senior players, and a weak conference schedule in the
CAA that's a large part of this year's success. We're still
recruiting well, but we should be so much better since as was
mentioned. The play-calling has been terrible and we don't
utilize our best players effectively.
#Post#: 19628--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: guest260
Date: November 6, 2017, 9:41 am
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Quite frankly I think many (of not all of us) have issues with
Coach P- but there is NO WAY our current Defense is number #1.
Just as point of reference we are #3 in total defense and that
is just in the CAA only (our pass defense is 9th) and 10th in
Red Zone defense. As to the Tight end, I don't care if he is
6'8 or 5'8. Does he have the hands to make the catches? (two
weeks ago he dropped an easy pass). He had an awesome block in
the USF but if you think he's better than the others that is
certainly your opinion but I don't.
I would keep Donnie W off the Punt returns (every game he lets
one punt get away from him) especially as we get closer to the
playoffs we need someone who can field the punts.
Joe C has the players he believes are the ones he wants to go to
in game situations and comes from practices during the week. Ray
Bolden is LEADING the conference in a couple of categories and
that is awesome for him.
This game should not have even come down to an OT if the OL
blocks on the 3rd down and Carbone did not try and lateral the
ball- KNOWING a FG would have made it a two possession game. Any
HS QB who has been playing QB should have that dialed in to his
brain on this down.
And with our current schedule (whether some want to knock the
strength or weakness of it) the fact is that is the schedule,
and as of today, we have the best record since we joined the CAA
(heck just look at Elon who thought they would be in the hunt?)
My worries is we don't finish strong against Wagner and Maine.
But at some point in time the "balls" you write about have to
also come from the players as well especially the seniors. This
is what "senior Leadership" means.
#Post#: 19629--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: sbufan
Date: November 6, 2017, 10:49 am
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I think we're being too critical. The team is 7-2. There are no
easy games in the CAA. Saturday the team was playing without
their all american LT, their best defensive lineman, fumbled
three times, and still managed to beat our SUNY rival. Let's
just enjoy this.
#Post#: 19631--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 6, 2017, 11:28 am
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and we were in that Delaware game, it was tight.
#15:
HTML http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-coaches-poll
#Post#: 19632--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 6, 2017, 11:30 am
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compughter: #4
HTML http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings
csm: #10
HTML http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings
#Post#: 19633--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: November 6, 2017, 11:52 am
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--- Quote from: sbufan link ---
>
> I think we're being too critical. The team is 7-2. There are
no easy games in the CAA. Saturday the team was playing without
their all american LT, their best defensive lineman, fumbled
three times, and still managed to beat our SUNY rival. Let's
just enjoy this.
>
--- End Quote ---
This!
Everyone is free to criticize. But damn... all "this Coach P
should be fired" talk is making me sick... we are in the middle
of a 7-2 season shooting for the FCS playoffs for the first time
since 2012, and first time as CAA members. Leave the coach
firing stuff until after the season.
I know it hasn't been pretty and trust me, it was painful to
watch the end of the UA game... but we are 7-2. We should be
excited about this.
#Post#: 19635--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 6, 2017, 12:02 pm
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STATS #12:
HTML http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs
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