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       #Post#: 22187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: April 2, 2018, 3:22 pm
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       could be that or could be that some kids arent cut out for D1
       and leave.  i think it's just happening more and more as the
       NCAA becomes transfer-happy.
       #Post#: 22188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: Wolfie_MD
       Date: April 2, 2018, 6:12 pm
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       I dunno that's pretty damning- the transfer rate out of the
       program is not good. That's as explicit a criticism of the
       program as I have seen. I think something needs to change.
       To me its very disturbing when multiple former players are
       saying that playing on the team is not a joyful experience. How
       bad is it that a freshman, within weeks of getting on campus, is
       thinking it was a mistake to come to SBU to play lax?
       Also, the comment about SBU not having the chance to win a DI
       championship is true but that's a bit of a stretch to tout the
       ability to win a DIII championship as an advantage. I don't
       think DI players are running to DIII to win championships.
       I still do not have a good feeling about the current direction
       of this program. First and foremost kids should enjoy being a
       part of the university and team. Success is important but I want
       a program that people want to be a part of. I'm obviously not
       privy to the inner workings of the team but the comments on this
       message board and articles like this really make me
       uncomfortable.
       #Post#: 22189--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: April 2, 2018, 7:21 pm
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       That was a pretty negative  article about SBU lax .  Not good
       that he would actually transfer down to D3 to play so he could
       enjoy the game.
       #Post#: 22190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: April 2, 2018, 7:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: Wolfie_MD link ---
       >
       > I dunno that's pretty damning- the transfer rate out of the
       program is not good. That's as explicit a criticism of the
       program as I have seen. I think something needs to change.
       >
       > To me its very disturbing when multiple former players are
       saying that playing on the team is not a joyful experience. How
       bad is it that a freshman, within weeks of getting on campus, is
       thinking it was a mistake to come to SBU to play lax?
       >
       > Also, the comment about SBU not having the chance to win a DI
       championship is true but that's a bit of a stretch to tout the
       ability to win a DIII championship as an advantage. I don't
       think DI players are running to DIII to win championships.
       >
       > I still do not have a good feeling about the current direction
       of this program. First and foremost kids should enjoy being a
       part of the university and team. Success is important but I want
       a program that people want to be a part of. I'm obviously not
       privy to the inner workings of the team but the comments on this
       message board and articles like this really make me
       uncomfortable.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Maybe one of you die hard Lacrosse fan should forward that
       article into Shawn Heilbron mailbox.. That's exactly what I
       would be doing if this was happening to Football or
       Basketball...
       UA Lax is getting better and better with the passing of each
       year and they really stepped up their recruiting. Most likely
       because they like the HC ..SB should be right right up there
       with UA  by now considering Long Island is a breading grounds
       for Lax...
       #Post#: 22193--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: reLAX
       Date: April 3, 2018, 10:57 am
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       Anytime you are handing out money (scholarships) it does become
       a job at the D1 level.
       All these student athletes that come in are the big fish in a
       small pond so to speak. Ego's
       are going to get bruised. Look at some of the kids that
       transferred and see what the strengths of
       the team were at the time. All programs have players leaving for
       what ever reasons. I have always
       said our campus life has a lot to do with the unhappiness and
       the transfers.
       #Post#: 22194--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: reLAX
       Date: April 3, 2018, 11:24 am
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       Also that article does not tell the whole story. Just saying.
       #Post#: 22200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: ry1nik
       Date: April 3, 2018, 5:33 pm
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       --- Quote from: reLAX link ---
       >
       > Also that article does not tell the whole story. Just saying.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It doesn't, but Nagle's mediocre to poor results for most of his
       time at SBU does.
       #Post#: 22202--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: April 3, 2018, 6:30 pm
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       story on abdellatif:
  HTML http://www.saratogian.com/20180402/ballston-spa-grad-kyle-abdellatif-growing-up-with-stony-brook-mens-lacrosse<br
       />
       #Post#: 22203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: April 3, 2018, 6:57 pm
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       SJU at SBU
       video:
  HTML https://portal.stretchinternet.com/stonybrook/portal.htm?eventId=428125&streamType=video
       stats:
  HTML http://sidearmstats.com/stonybrook/mlax/
       beginning of Q1.  maciejewski in cage, enneguess at the draw.
       makes a low to high save.  rees up top, to mccannell up top,
       shakes his man, penetrates and shoots far pipe off hip 1-0 SB
       SJ hits a crossbar.  SB throws it away three times.
       joe madsen to mike madsen at x, drives to 5v5, topsides a
       shorty. 1-1
       ehlers at the draw.  abdellatif forces a TO, clears to a break,
       no slide, shoots. 2-1 SB
       hanley save.  swartwood up top, to debenedictis on the wing,
       sidearm. 2-2
       SJ peppers with shots.  SB rotating and recovering.
       end of Q1, 2-2.
       #Post#: 22204--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SB Lacrosse 2018 Season
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: April 3, 2018, 7:24 pm
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       beginning of Q2.  manley save.
       SB TO, Q2 1210
       goalies trade saves.  SB throws it away.  dugan causes a TO.
       hanley save.
       haun to pickel (video froze). 3-2 SB
       injury TO (marron), Q2 721
       hanley five hole save, SJU flag, pushing.  SB EMO, hanley save.
       all even.
       SB long possession, missing the cage.  hanley save.
       SJ TO, Q2 213
       macie doorstep 1v0 stuff, off stickside.  SB throws it away.
       SJ TO, Q2 105
       macie three saves.
       end of Q2, 3-2 SB
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