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       #Post#: 20616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: Hammertime Date: December 20, 2017, 10:27 am
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       [quote author=sbufan link=topic=617.msg20614#msg20614
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=617.msg20613#msg20613
       date=1513785952]
       Another thing I look at when SB signs an athlete is if he or she
       are getting  multiple offers.. For example.. Carbone had 0
       offers coming out of high school... That should be a red flag..
       I know it is not easy pulling athletes away from bigger schools,
       but in order to be competitive, you must
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       Agreed but it can be difficult to find out how many offers kids
       have, and some kids aren't always truthful about what schools
       are recruiting them. With football recruits, I like to see the
       highlights more than anything else.
       [/quote]
       A coach once told at some football high school game years ago,
       He never watches highlight tape. If he has an athlete in mind he
       will watch as many live games as possible to find the good and
       bad in the kid.. I agree with his statement.
       My son plays football for WM and he only puts up his best plays,
       never his bad ..
       #Post#: 20617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: Hammertime Date: December 20, 2017, 10:36 am
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=617.msg20615#msg20615
       date=1513787010]
       So far I dont see any local, Long Island kids signing.. A kid
       from West Hampton high school just signed with NH.
       [/quote]
       Co winner of the Hansen award, best player on Long Island..
       Thats huge! Would have been nice to grab this kid..
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       #Post#: 20618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: December 20, 2017, 11:13 am
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=617.msg20615#msg20615
       date=1513787010]
       So far I dont see any local, Long Island kids signing.. A kid
       from West Hampton high school just signed with NH.
       [/quote]
       Probably because of our recruiting tactic of signing out of
       state kids then making local kids "walk-on." As long as we have
       a solid class at the end of the day I'm fine with it. We were I
       think 20th in the FCS last year which could be better, but is
       still really good. We already have the talent to compete with
       anyone. Hopefully these QB commits pan out as that's the
       position where we've had a very hard time getting and developing
       talent.
       #Post#: 20619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: Campi47 Date: December 20, 2017, 11:18 am
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       I think the new signing period is great for schools like SBU
       The 11 players that will sign today were on a lot of FBS schools
       radar especially as preferred walk-ons so now they can
       concentrate od other players for the February 07 signing day
       This early group of signees included many very good skill
       position guys so I'm very happy
       As far as LI players expect about 8 preferred walk-ons and maybe
       2 scholarship kids in February
       #Post#: 20620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: Hammertime Date: December 20, 2017, 11:24 am
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       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=617.msg20618#msg20618
       date=1513790006]
       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=617.msg20615#msg20615
       date=1513787010]
       So far I dont see any local, Long Island kids signing.. A kid
       from West Hampton high school just signed with NH.
       [/quote]
       Probably because of our recruiting tactic of signing out of
       state kids then making local kids "walk-on." As long as we have
       a solid class at the end of the day I'm fine with it. We were I
       think 20th in the FCS last year which could be better, but is
       still really good. We already have the talent to compete with
       anyone. Hopefully these QB commits pan out as that's the
       position where we've had a very hard time getting and developing
       talent.
       [/quote]
       Totally agree with the QB issue. I have a huge issue with the
       "Walk-on" crap with our local kids! You have no idea how that
       pisses me off especially when my boy plays Varsity football and
       he hears other high school athletes talking bad about SB policy,
       tactis or whatever they call it..
       #Post#: 20622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: Campi47 Date: December 20, 2017, 12:09 pm
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       Here is the problem with the LI HS Football players from an SBU
       stand point from February through July every year is the
       evaluation period and when the LI players go up against the City
       kids and out of state kids they don't grade out well weather it
       be their HT, Speed, Competitiveness, ETC or they don't do any
       camps at all so the player has got to do a better job. Until
       other CAA schools or FBS schools offer these kids SBU is going
       to continue to not offer a scholarship but rather ask them to
       walk-on that's is the reality of recruiting on LI. By the way
       having said this there will probably be around 6-12 players who
       will get money from FCS/FBS schools for the 2018 Class so
       players on LI have a choice walk on at SBU or another FCS school
       or go DII and maybe get some money
       #Post#: 20623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: sbufan Date: December 20, 2017, 12:27 pm
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=617.msg20616#msg20616
       date=1513787237]
       A coach once told at some football high school game years ago,
       He never watches highlight tape. If he has an athlete in mind he
       will watch as many live games as possible to find the good and
       bad in the kid.. I agree with his statement.
       My son plays football for WM and he only puts up his best plays,
       never his bad ..
       [/quote]
       I've heard coaches want to see high light reels because they
       want to see what the player is capable of. After that they'll
       have the players send some actual game tape.
       #Post#: 20624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: Chrissy D. Date: December 21, 2017, 10:40 am
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       I have mentioned this before. Using preferred walk-ons is a tool
       used by all schools. It allows you to bring in a bigger class
       without counting against your scholly limit. The reason that
       local kids are brought in as preferred walk-ons is that they
       qualify for state money ( grants, aid, etc ). A preferred walk
       on can be givenba scholly at anytime but they will usually earn
       them after their second yr in the program. If they are offered
       the scholly before the 2nd yr is up then that will count against
       the scholarship limit from the original class yr. Some preferred
       walk ons qualify for full financial aid. This is not a bad
       thing. This is how Liotine earned a scholarship.
       #Post#: 20625--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: Chrissy D. Date: December 21, 2017, 10:56 am
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       Just to add to this. SB offers top LI and in state players
       scholarships, examples Bedell, Gowins, Haggert. Its up to the
       player to except. Dalton Crossan was offered a full but chose
       UNH instead. It worked out pretty well for him. U just cant
       control that.
       #Post#: 20783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 Commitments
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: January 5, 2018, 10:29 pm
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