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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Seawolf97 Date: June 30, 2018, 12:03 pm
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I would rather put money into football and the basketball
programs that's where the major press coverage is . Our other
sports all should get their share . Soccer he is talking a
complete new venue of 3500 seats so I have heard . This could
be interesting since I get the impression that FBS football is
closer than we think for the Seawolves . Our old rivals in the
Big South Coastal Carolina and Liberty are both FBS now .
Coastal almost beat Arkansas last season losing by a field goal
.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 1, 2018, 12:32 pm
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[quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=602.msg22736#msg22736
date=1530378231]
I would rather put money into football and the basketball
programs that's where the major press coverage is . Our other
sports all should get their share . Soccer he is talking a
complete new venue of 3500 seats so I have heard . This could
be interesting since I get the impression that FBS football is
closer than we think for the Seawolves . Our old rivals in the
Big South Coastal Carolina and Liberty are both FBS now .
Coastal almost beat Arkansas last season losing by a field goal
.
[/quote]
We are very close to FBS, what we need is a conference invite. I
don't believe we should go the Liberty/Umass/NMSU route of being
an FBS Independent, so we'll need to find a conference that will
invite us. Best odds of that are the MAC, or a reconfigured CUSA
with a more eastern tilt.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Seawolf97 Date: July 1, 2018, 3:18 pm
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The MAC would be great . From what I have heard we have some
support in that conference from Buffalo and few others . Just
gotta get that invite and build from there.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Hammertime Date: July 1, 2018, 4:26 pm
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg22738#msg22738
date=1530466358]
[quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=602.msg22736#msg22736
date=1530378231]
I would rather put money into football and the basketball
programs that's where the major press coverage is . Our other
sports all should get their share . Soccer he is talking a
complete new venue of 3500 seats so I have heard . This could
be interesting since I get the impression that FBS football is
closer than we think for the Seawolves . Our old rivals in the
Big South Coastal Carolina and Liberty are both FBS now .
Coastal almost beat Arkansas last season losing by a field goal
.
[/quote]
We are very close to FBS, what we need is a conference invite. I
don't believe we should go the Liberty/Umass/NMSU route of being
an FBS Independent, so we'll need to find a conference that will
invite us. Best odds of that are the MAC, or a reconfigured CUSA
with a more eastern tilt.
[/quote]
VASeawolf, Why do you say we are close. As much as I would love
to see SB make that jump to FBS, I just dont see it anytime
soon. SB would have make LaValle stadium to handle 15K seats,
Min. and sell 15K tickets for each home game, if not then SB is
on the hook to pay the difference. Correct me if i am wrong but
i do believe that is one of the requirements from the NCAA. We
do about 7K on average now.
Hofstra couldn't even handle the CAA in Football and was forced
to drop it because of financial reasons. If I am not mistaken,
there is a hiring freeze currently in affect and a cutback in
$$$$ for athletics. How in the world can Shawn Heilbron pool a
rabbit out of his hat and make the leap to FBS?? Unless they
magically find a ton of money or if some big time booster steps
forward, i just dont see how SB can ever make this fly.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 1, 2018, 6:28 pm
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agreed; what could be worse than SB paying extra to buy it's own
tickets, so that football can play in a literally half empty
stadium.
i do agree as well that FB and BB should be priorities. after
that, baseball is historically successful and lacrosse is in
anomaly (because of geographical reasons).
on to the women's side- wlax should become a top 5 priority if
not higher. can you even argue against it.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 1, 2018, 6:52 pm
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[quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=602.msg22739#msg22739
date=1530476299]
The MAC would be great . From what I have heard we have some
support in that conference from Buffalo and few others . Just
gotta get that invite and build from there.
[/quote]
I believe we have support yes and there were talks with the MAC
several years ago, however I don't believe Buffalo will be in
favor of our membership. If we go FBS, their program becomes
even more irrelevant than it already is since the only thing
they have on us right now is being FBS. I suspect they'd fight
against our inclusion into the MAC, but I'm happy to be wrong
there.
Hammertime, yes the 15k average is a requirement for FBS, but
nobody enforces that rule, it's not in the interest of the P5 to
do so. If that rule were enforced, most of the MAC and Sun Belt
would be relegated back down to FCS. Besides, I don't believe
schools literally buy back their tickets at face value. You're
in a way just buying your own product back at that point and
paying yourself. Not sure I even see the point. Coastal Carolina
got an invite to the Sun Belt when their stadium was smaller
than ours is currently. If they can manage to be FBS, so can we.
It may not happen tomorrow, but I can certainly see it within a
decade. What Hofstra did with their program is of no concern to
me. They have less than half the enrollment we do. All of our
peer institutions and fellow public AAU members with football
are FBS with the lone exception of UC Davis.
Being FBS gives you a huge boost as far as exposure and media
dollars which would help to offset many of the increased costs
we'd incur. Not only that, but FBS games tend to be much better
attended than FCS games since it's difficult for FCS teams in
large markets to be relevant. Attendance wouldn't be an issue if
we were getting Army, Uconn, Temple, Buffalo etc. coming to
Lavalle.
Chairman, I do worry about money, but on the same token we're
already spending FBS level dollars on our athletic programs
without the FBS exposure and revenues to offset that. With that
information, no, I don't think FBS football is a huge stretch
for SBU in the near future. Give the link below a look if you
get the chance, it's updated NCAA financial data for public
schools for the 2016-17 school year and it's very eye opening.
HTML http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 1, 2018, 7:52 pm
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thanks, very helpful. :) :)
#Post#: 22750--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Seawolf97 Date: July 2, 2018, 10:39 am
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When you read his plan even without FBS football we are planning
to spend millions. Upgrades to the baseball and softball fields
, more work on the pool , two new womens programs , locker room
improvements etc. That money has to come from somewhere. Im
sure we can pull it off in the next few years .
#Post#: 22758--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 8, 2018, 8:29 pm
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[quote]Our finish of 90 placed us ahead of Power 5 schools
Boston College (95), Rutgers (107), Pitt (111) and Georgia Tech
(121). Following our strong start to the year, we were ranked 42
in the Directors' Cup Fall standings. The best finish in school
history was 68 in 2011-12.
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HTML https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2018/7/5/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-july-5-2018.aspx?path=blog
#Post#: 22760--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Seawolf97 Date: July 8, 2018, 9:06 pm
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He continues to move the ball forward . We are in good company
and moving forward.
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