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#Post#: 30802--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Hammertime Date: July 26, 2020, 6:34 am
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[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=602.msg30801#msg30801
date=1595710293]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30800#msg30800
date=1595708447]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30799#msg30799
date=1595702323]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30798#msg30798
date=1595668794]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30797#msg30797
date=1595662351]
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports
including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully
in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.
[/quote]
What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports
again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to
make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will
most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many
people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports?
I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.
[/quote]
Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing
this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn
vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes
we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will
likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on
campus.
[/quote]
That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a
rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with
government control, (socialism) telling me what to do, when to
do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major
sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on
television!
[/quote]
Not looking to get political at all, but since EVERYTHING is
political today, I expect half the country to get the vaccine;
half not. I've heard that we need 50% compliance to achieve
herd immunity, so a working vaccine could achieve that.
[/quote]
I agree with half the country wanting the vaccine and the other
half not. I got the coronavirus back in March. I didn't even
know I had it. I was checked three different times for the IgG
antibodies and my numbers all came in very high. As far as I am
concerned, I am protected. Now, that doesnt mean I will always
have the antibodies, the same way getting the vaccine doesnt
guarantee I will always have the antibodies against covid19.
If people are willing to get vacainted against covid19, by all
means do it. I just have a major problem with the Goverment
telling citizens they must, or its a law to get vacainted. And
this is coming from a guy who worked for the Goverment.
Things are going to heat up big time in this country when the
vaccine is readily available and the governors start mandating
citizens to get vacainted, otherwise you cnt attend any big,
social gatherings. Watch and see. That will happen.
#Post#: 30803--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: ry1nik Date: July 26, 2020, 7:07 am
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Never has a vaccine been mandated (except for children who want
to attend public schools, to protect other children) and never
will a COVID vaccine be mandated.However, it is not a
constitutional right to attend a sporting event without
complying with the organizers’ safety requirements...which may
include vaccination for entry.
#Post#: 30804--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: OldSeawolf Date: July 26, 2020, 7:30 am
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[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30802#msg30802
date=1595763291]
[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=602.msg30801#msg30801
date=1595710293]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30800#msg30800
date=1595708447]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30799#msg30799
date=1595702323]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30798#msg30798
date=1595668794]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30797#msg30797
date=1595662351]
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports
including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully
in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.
[/quote]
What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports
again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to
make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will
most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many
people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports?
I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.
[/quote]
Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing
this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn
vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes
we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will
likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on
campus.
[/quote]
That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a
rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with
government control, (socialism) telling me what to do, when to
do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major
sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on
television!
[/quote]
Not looking to get political at all, but since EVERYTHING is
political today, I expect half the country to get the vaccine;
half not. I've heard that we need 50% compliance to achieve
herd immunity, so a working vaccine could achieve that.
[/quote]
I agree with half the country wanting the vaccine and the other
half not. I got the coronavirus back in March. I didn't even
know I had it. I was checked three different times for the IgG
antibodies and my numbers all came in very high. As far as I am
concerned, I am protected. Now, that doesnt mean I will always
have the antibodies, the same way getting the vaccine doesnt
guarantee I will always have the antibodies against covid19.
If people are willing to get vacainted against covid19, by all
means do it. I just have a major problem with the Goverment
telling citizens they must, or its a law to get vacainted. And
this is coming from a guy who worked for the Goverment.
Things are going to heat up big time in this country when the
vaccine is readily available and the governors start mandating
citizens to get vacainted, otherwise you cnt attend any big,
social gatherings. Watch and see. That will happen.
[/quote]
Glad you didn't get sick, and I don't disagree with anything
you've said here. My concern is not so much the issue of
whether it will be mandated or not, but due to the gravity of
the situation, I'm concerned that there may be too much pressure
to get it out quickly, and potentially to not be sufficiently
tested. That is medically concerning to me. After all, there
is a pot of gold (directly or indirectly) to the company(s) that
get it out first. But I agree with Ry1nik too, public venues
will have a right to deny entrance to those that aren't
vaccinated, to protect the health of their client base. The
public at large may actually demand this. It shall be
interesting, and of course, will turn into another political
football.
#Post#: 30805--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Hammertime Date: July 26, 2020, 9:05 am
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[quote author=ry1nik link=topic=602.msg30803#msg30803
date=1595765256]
Never has a vaccine been mandated (except for children who want
to attend public schools, to protect other children) and never
will a COVID vaccine be mandated.However, it is not a
constitutional right to attend a sporting event without
complying with the organizers’ safety requirements...which may
include vaccination for entry.
[/quote]
We haven't had a Pandemic like this since the Spnish Flu in
1918, or there about. Not to be political about this but if
Biden gets in the WH, I could see the democrats mandating this
though..
As far as sporting events showing proof of vaccination before
entering, that would be the kiss of death to that organization.
If 50% of people oppose vaccination , that's 50% less spectators
.
If the Goverment doesnt sign into law that you cant sue people
because you think you got the virus from one particular place,
then this country is more screwed up then ever before.
#Post#: 30806--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Hammertime Date: July 26, 2020, 9:11 am
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[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=602.msg30804#msg30804
date=1595766651]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30802#msg30802
date=1595763291]
[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=602.msg30801#msg30801
date=1595710293]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30800#msg30800
date=1595708447]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30799#msg30799
date=1595702323]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30798#msg30798
date=1595668794]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30797#msg30797
date=1595662351]
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports
including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully
in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.
[/quote]
What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports
again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to
make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will
most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many
people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports?
I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.
[/quote]
Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing
this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn
vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes
we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will
likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on
campus.
[/quote]
That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a
rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with
government control, (socialism) telling me what to do, when to
do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major
sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on
television!
[/quote]
Not looking to get political at all, but since EVERYTHING is
political today, I expect half the country to get the vaccine;
half not. I've heard that we need 50% compliance to achieve
herd immunity, so a working vaccine could achieve that.
[/quote]
I agree with half the country wanting the vaccine and the other
half not. I got the coronavirus back in March. I didn't even
know I had it. I was checked three different times for the IgG
antibodies and my numbers all came in very high. As far as I am
concerned, I am protected. Now, that doesnt mean I will always
have the antibodies, the same way getting the vaccine doesnt
guarantee I will always have the antibodies against covid19.
If people are willing to get vacainted against covid19, by all
means do it. I just have a major problem with the Goverment
telling citizens they must, or its a law to get vacainted. And
this is coming from a guy who worked for the Goverment.
Things are going to heat up big time in this country when the
vaccine is readily available and the governors start mandating
citizens to get vacainted, otherwise you cnt attend any big,
social gatherings. Watch and see. That will happen.
[/quote]
Glad you didn't get sick, and I don't disagree with anything
you've said here. My concern is not so much the issue of
whether it will be mandated or not, but due to the gravity of
the situation, I'm concerned that there may be too much pressure
to get it out quickly, and potentially to not be sufficiently
tested. That is medically concerning to me. After all, there
is a pot of gold (directly or indirectly) to the company(s) that
get it out first. But I agree with Ry1nik too, public venues
will have a right to deny entrance to those that aren't
vaccinated, to protect the health of their client base. The
public at large may actually demand this. It shall be
interesting, and of course, will turn into another political
football.
[/quote]
Thats why I wont get the vaccine. I have concerns of it's
efficacy and safety. There could be more harm done to people
then getting the virus. I also think the Goverment signed into
law waiving any lawsuits against Bio and Pharma companies
because of this pandemic.
#Post#: 30807--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 26, 2020, 7:50 pm
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members- just wanted to say how great it is that we can have a
reasoned, respectful discussion here, unlike so many other
online forums. without crossing the line into the
inappropriate. as a result, we will continue to let spirited
discussion and disagreement thrive on this topic in this thread.
please continue to do so. we have a chance here to be above the
fray and set the example for civil discourse- the example that
our most storied institutions (lawmakers, cabinet, media, etc.)
fail to grasp. well done my fellow SB fans.
;D
#Post#: 30809--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Hammertime Date: July 27, 2020, 4:33 am
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[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=602.msg30807#msg30807 date=1595811050]
members- just wanted to say how great it is that we can have a
reasoned, respectful discussion here, unlike so many other
online forums. without crossing the line into the
inappropriate. as a result, we will continue to let spirited
discussion and disagreement thrive on this topic in this thread.
please continue to do so. we have a chance here to be above the
fray and set the example for civil discourse- the example that
our most storied institutions (lawmakers, cabinet, media, etc.)
fail to grasp. well done my fellow SB fans.
;D
[/quote]
LOL, excuse my ignorance but was that sarcasm or genuine...
#Post#: 30810--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 27, 2020, 8:21 am
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serious.
#Post#: 30882--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Chairman of the Board Date: September 10, 2020, 4:43 pm
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HTML https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2020/9/10/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-sept-10-2020.aspx
[quote]Basketball season was originally slated to begin with
games on Nov. 10, but is likely to move to Nov. 25 based upon a
joint recommendation from the NCAA committees that oversee men's
and women's basketball. The rationale makes sense. Most campuses
are scheduled to clear out at Thanksgiving, so disruption for
basketball teams will be limited.
As for football, the CAA soon will finalize a schedule for the
spring. We do know that the regular season will end on April 17,
with selections for the FCS playoffs taking place the following
day. The team has been working hard and looking forward to "fall
ball" in October.
The spring season, which will be limited to a maximum of eight
regular-season games, is going to be a springboard for the
fall.[/quote]
#Post#: 30883--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Hammertime Date: September 10, 2020, 5:10 pm
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[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=602.msg30882#msg30882 date=1599774192]
HTML https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2020/9/10/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-sept-10-2020.aspx
[quote]Basketball season was originally slated to begin with
games on Nov. 10, but is likely to move to Nov. 25 based upon a
joint recommendation from the NCAA committees that oversee men's
and women's basketball. The rationale makes sense. Most campuses
are scheduled to clear out at Thanksgiving, so disruption for
basketball teams will be limited.
As for football, the CAA soon will finalize a schedule for the
spring. We do know that the regular season will end on April 17,
with selections for the FCS playoffs taking place the following
day. The team has been working hard and looking forward to "fall
ball" in October.
The spring season, which will be limited to a maximum of eight
regular-season games, is going to be a springboard for the
fall.[/quote]
[/quote]
A total shit show!
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