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       #Post#: 30619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: June 8, 2020, 11:00 am
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       excellent point.
       #Post#: 30620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: guest369 Date: June 8, 2020, 12:11 pm
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       [quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=602.msg30616#msg30616
       date=1591622403]
       if its a choice between providing education to have-nots and
       athletics experience, I know what I would choose in a heartbeat.
       [/quote]
       I also know which one I would choose in a heartbeat... it just
       probably isn't the same as yours.
       #Post#: 30621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: June 8, 2020, 10:09 pm
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       [quote author=Moveitfred link=topic=602.msg30618#msg30618
       date=1591627577]
       There is also this possibility mired in the mix:
       What if our entire notion of a university, especially as it
       pertains to student life and gathering and sports and
       atmosphere, will be modestly/significantly/completely changed in
       the next several years or possibly our lifetimes because of
       health protocols and risks? What can any university do on the
       sports and student life end of things before that other big
       thing gets figured out? Is our vision of the vibrant university,
       built from past experience, applicable in the future?
       And certainly there will be many opinions about the virus
       situation and where we stand. Go to your favorite partisan news
       source today and you'll get all the answers you want to hear.
       Truth is, we don't know, and it's possible "a university" will
       need to be re-imagined by taking a hard look at what it can and
       cannot do. With regard to the interests here, that could be a
       change or end to some sports, to the fan experience, even what
       it means to "go to" a university.
       [/quote]
       This is a good point, but I think the change you're talking
       about pertains to the cost of school overall, and with class
       time being augmented with online learning and community college
       is the traditional four year school with the big tuition, room
       and board, student debt, etc. worth it? Many already decided
       college was a bubble and didn't want to partake. As far as
       student life? I think that will bounce back. It's not like
       people will never go to a bar or congregate ever again just
       because of a once in 100 year virus.  I expect things to come
       back. Will take a couple years, but they'll come back.
       #Post#: 30650--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: June 14, 2020, 7:37 pm
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       #Post#: 30796--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 24, 2020, 6:47 pm
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       [quote]Ultimately the myriad complexities proved to be too
       difficult to overcome, leading to the difficult decision to
       postpone fall sports to the spring.
       
       Chief among those complexities is travel. Almost half of our
       scheduled football opponents (Florida Atlantic, Towson,
       Richmond, Delaware and William & Mary) are in states that
       require a 14-day self-quarantine when traveling to New York. We
       would have had to scramble to find opponents, a situation made
       all the more complicated with potential regional opponents from
       the Patriot and Ivy Leagues taken off of the board due to their
       earlier decisions to postpone fall sports.
       As part of our budget planning, we asked each head coach to
       identify cost savings that could contribute to our overall
       savings plan. That process resulted in trips canceled,
       scholarships saved, positions left unfilled and equipment
       purchases curtailed. Our head coaches deserve tremendous credit
       for their understanding and willingness to seek solutions in
       support of the department's fiscal needs.
       In the America East, sport-specific task forces were created to
       examine scheduling scenarios that would ensure more regional
       contests and less travel. The CAA went so far as to create six
       potential schedules, including one that had each team playing a
       home-and-home series against four conference opponents. Imagine
       having two bites at the Golden Apple in one season!
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 30797--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 25, 2020, 2:32 am
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       I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports
       including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully
       in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.
       #Post#: 30798--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: Hammertime Date: July 25, 2020, 4:19 am
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       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30797#msg30797
       date=1595662351]
       I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports
       including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully
       in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.
       [/quote]
       What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports
       again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to
       make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will
       most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many
       people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports?
       I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.
       #Post#: 30799--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 25, 2020, 1:38 pm
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30798#msg30798
       date=1595668794]
       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30797#msg30797
       date=1595662351]
       I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports
       including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully
       in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.
       [/quote]
       What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports
       again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to
       make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will
       most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many
       people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports?
       I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.
       [/quote]
       Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing
       this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn
       vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes
       we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will
       likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on
       campus.
       #Post#: 30800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: Hammertime Date: July 25, 2020, 3:20 pm
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       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30799#msg30799
       date=1595702323]
       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30798#msg30798
       date=1595668794]
       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30797#msg30797
       date=1595662351]
       I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports
       including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully
       in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.
       [/quote]
       What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports
       again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to
       make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will
       most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many
       people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports?
       I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.
       [/quote]
       Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing
       this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn
       vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes
       we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will
       likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on
       campus.
       [/quote]
       That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a
       rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with
       government control, (socialism)  telling me what to do, when to
       do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major
       sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on
       television!
       #Post#: 30801--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
       By: OldSeawolf Date: July 25, 2020, 3:51 pm
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30800#msg30800
       date=1595708447]
       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30799#msg30799
       date=1595702323]
       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30798#msg30798
       date=1595668794]
       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=602.msg30797#msg30797
       date=1595662351]
       I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports
       including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully
       in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.
       [/quote]
       What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports
       again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to
       make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will
       most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many
       people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports?
       I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.
       [/quote]
       Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing
       this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn
       vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes
       we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will
       likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on
       campus.
       [/quote]
       That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a
       rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with
       government control, (socialism)  telling me what to do, when to
       do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major
       sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on
       television!
       [/quote]
       Not looking to get political at all, but since EVERYTHING is
       political today, I expect half the country to get the vaccine;
       half not.  I've heard that we need 50% compliance to achieve
       herd immunity, so a working vaccine could achieve that.
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