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#Post#: 30594--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: June 1, 2020, 11:59 am
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SH seems like a good guy, and overall I think he’s incrementally
helped SBU athletics programs. Also, I think he’s added
integrity to the athletics dept, which the last guy lacked.
That said, don’t be surprised if he gets poached and/or is
looking elsewhere. New President may very well want her own team
on board, including the AD position.
#Post#: 30595--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: June 1, 2020, 1:59 pm
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--- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
>
> SH seems like a good guy, and overall I think he’s
incrementally helped SBU athletics programs. Also, I think he’s
added integrity to the athletics dept, which the last guy
lacked.
>
> That said, don’t be surprised if he gets poached and/or is
looking elsewhere. New President may very well want her own team
on board, including the AD position.
>
--- End Quote ---
And if she did that it would be her first big mistake as SB
President. I could see SH bailing for a higher paying job
elsewhere though.
#Post#: 30596--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: June 2, 2020, 8:55 am
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=602.msg30594#msg30594
date=1591030785]
> SH seems like a good guy, and overall I think he’s
incrementally helped SBU athletics programs. Also, I think he’s
added integrity to the athletics dept, which the last guy
lacked.
>
> That said, don’t be surprised if he gets poached and/or is
looking elsewhere. New President may very well want her own team
on board, including the AD position.
>
--- End Quote ---
And if she did that it would be her first big mistake as SB
President. I could see SH bailing for a higher paying job
elsewhere though.
[/quote]
I agree. If she did that she'd be hella stupid, but I don't
think that's what happens. I think instead of building SBU up
from the level we're currently at athletically, Shawn sees an
easier, better job at a stronger school and takes it. At least
there he won't have to deal with stupid NYS bull**** state
politics when it comes to funding. With all the shutdowns and
the economic collapse, it'll be very hard to get SBU the money
it needs earmarked for moving up. I wish we were able to take
advantage of the situation 6-7 years ago and expand the stadium
to 15k then.
#Post#: 30597--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: June 2, 2020, 9:07 am
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The huge economic loss the state is experiencing from COVID
would have been enough to drive down funding for higher
education over the next few budget years. Add to that the costs
associated with the protests and riots. A stadium (or any
facilities) expansion is out of the question at this point.
#Post#: 30599--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: June 2, 2020, 12:58 pm
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--- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
>
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=602.msg30595#msg30595
date=1591037951]
> [quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=602.msg30594#msg30594
date=1591030785]
> SH seems like a good guy, and overall I think he’s
incrementally helped SBU athletics programs. Also, I think he’s
added integrity to the athletics dept, which the last guy
lacked.
>
> That said, don’t be surprised if he gets poached and/or is
looking elsewhere. New President may very well want her own team
on board, including the AD position.
>
--- End Quote ---
And if she did that it would be her first big mistake as SB
President. I could see SH bailing for a higher paying job
elsewhere though.
[/quote]
I agree. If she did that she'd be hella stupid, but I don't
think that's what happens. I think instead of building SBU up
from the level we're currently at athletically, Shawn sees an
easier, better job at a stronger school and takes it. At least
there he won't have to deal with stupid NYS bull**** state
politics when it comes to funding. With all the shutdowns and
the economic collapse, it'll be very hard to get SBU the money
it needs earmarked for moving up. I wish we were able to take
advantage of the situation 6-7 years ago and expand the stadium
to 15k then.
[/quote]
I agree. The economic collapse will take a decade or more to
balance out again. SBU was having money issues before this COVID
issue was even around. Monies earmarked for athletics are over
on the state level. Private donations are the only way to fund
college sports as we know it.
#Post#: 30600--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: guest369
Date: June 2, 2020, 1:19 pm
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Cuomo really should have approved the stadium expansion when he
had the chance! Asshole! I’ll never forgive him.
#Post#: 30601--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: June 2, 2020, 3:42 pm
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--- Quote from: Green Baron link ---
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> Cuomo really should have approved the stadium expansion when
he had the chance! ****! I’ll never forgive him.
>
--- End Quote ---
As much as I would like to have seen LaValle stadium double in
size, it would be a waste. SB cant even sell out Homecoming
games. What makes you think they can fill up a 20k seat stadium.
Forget it. It's not even worth talking about anymore.
#Post#: 30602--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: June 2, 2020, 5:53 pm
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the money should have been spent enhancing student life
then, we can fill our existing stadium
#Post#: 30605--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: June 3, 2020, 4:05 pm
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We can talk about should haves and would haves all day long.
Given the way things work in this state, if you get the chance
to upgrade your stadium you have to take it. Who knows when the
next time we'll get the chance to do that will be? FBS requires
at least 15k, and ideally you want to have some room to grow
beyond that. We're a long ways away from that 25k rendering from
a few years back, but when you get the chance to do something
you have to take advantage of it. UB and UA are scared we'll lap
them completely if we get a bigger stadium and go FBS. We
already have several advantages due to our location alone.
#Post#: 30606--------------------------------------------------
Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: June 3, 2020, 4:11 pm
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--- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
>
> We can talk about should haves and would haves all day long.
Given the way things work in this state, if you get the chance
to upgrade your stadium you have to take it. Who knows when the
next time we'll get the chance to do that will be? FBS requires
at least 15k, and ideally you want to have some room to grow
beyond that. We're a long ways away from that 25k rendering from
a few years back, but when you get the chance to do something
you have to take advantage of it. UB and UA are scared we'll lap
them completely if we get a bigger stadium and go FBS. We
already have several advantages due to our location alone.
>
--- End Quote ---
SB couldn't fill all the existing seats in the past. Do you
really think if LaValle stadium had 25,000 seats, at will fill
up, even if they were in an FBS conference?
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