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Shawn Heilbron / TWT
By: Tml Date: March 18, 2017, 6:40 pm
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I though this would be an interesting question for SB fans to
answer.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: laxnation Date: March 18, 2017, 8:50 pm
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I know it's only been only two or three years for the women's bb
coach, but when does she get the hook for finishing 2nd to last
in the worst conference in women's bb?
Also, where all these championships that AD promised the Stony
Brook family?
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Tml Date: March 19, 2017, 4:19 am
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Which team in which sport is performing better since Heilbron go
the job? Certainly, not WBB, which is your point, though to be
fair to McCombs she recruited then lost Ogechi, who was like
Warney. Not Baseball or MBB or Football. WLAX maybe?
So what are Heilbron's accomplishments since his arrival? It's
a serious question. I'd really like to know.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Hammertime Date: March 19, 2017, 5:12 am
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[quote author=laxnation link=topic=602.msg18227#msg18227
date=1489888207]
I know it's only been only two or three years for the women's bb
coach, but when does she get the hook for finishing 2nd to last
in the worst conference in women's bb?
Also, where all these championships that AD promised the Stony
Brook family?
[/quote]
You're being too hard on the AD, coaches, players, janitors,
cooks, security, AE conference,.... Lax.. Some people on here
get insulted if you have an opinion. What you need to do is say
that SB athletics is doing great!, we're improving and getting
better every year!! WBB is doing great!!!!!!!! Pat the coaches
on the back and say, "tomorrow is another day". Then give them a
safe space to sit and talk. Oh, the thousands of dollars that
you donate to SB athletics, who cares. Nobody really cares about
that and they dont need your money anyways..I'm finished
ranting.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: March 21, 2017, 2:58 pm
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I think he's been neutral as far as on the court performance
goes. Most of that rests on the individual coaches. Piekiel had
SB basketball trending up and Priore FB trending down
independent of what SH has done. I think he's increased
awareness and visibility of SB athletics and projects like the
pool being finished and Lavalle stadium having the north
end-zone be expanded are good things to happen under his tenure
so far.
I think he's got us going in the right direction though based on
how I hear fans of other schools talk about our athletic
department. I hear the term "aggressive" being used often which
is good to hear, especially in the wake of the leadership of
schools like Idaho (dropping to FCS) and JMU (declining a Sun
Belt invite).
President Stanley seeing the value in athletics is extremely
important as well and cannot be understated as the struggles of
other schools can in part be tied to inept leadership at the
university level. The snobby mentality of "we're too good for
athletics" is toxic for the growth of an athletic department
(Tulane for instance would still be in the SEC today for
instance had they not made the boneheaded decision to
de-emphasize athletics in the 60's). We should thank our lucky
stars Stanley isn't like that.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: OldSeawolf Date: March 27, 2017, 9:55 am
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Like him or not, and reason for his dismissal aside, my view is
that Fiore's regime was a major contributor to where the program
has come. He was a visionary and a vocal cheerleader for the
University, that got SBU a lot of press. For example, his
touting the University during its College World Series run was
superb, IMO, even if he was rambunctious and flamboyant (and
some may even say, self-serving). Heilbron seems much lower key
and much less visible outside of the University. This may have
been needed initially, after the Fiore dismissal, but I think he
needs to sell the brand more, and certainly become more visible
externally. I mean, except for the athletes, the donors and the
AD fraternity, who even knows his name?
He definitely made a bold pick with Boals as MBB coach, but
after 1 season, I think it was the right move and a good one.
If his main emphasis is the football team, however, then he
needs to make a coaching change, since I think Priore is
definitely not the way to go moving forward.
I gave it a Treading Water, although I would have stated the
option as "hasn't helped the program, hasn't hurt the program
much".
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Hammertime Date: March 27, 2017, 4:02 pm
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[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=602.msg18297#msg18297
date=1490626529]
Like him or not, and reason for his dismissal aside, my view is
that Fiore's regime was a major contributor to where the program
has come. He was a visionary and a vocal cheerleader for the
University, that got SBU a lot of press. For example, his
touting the University during its College World Series run was
superb, IMO, even if he was rambunctious and flamboyant (and
some may even say, self-serving). Heilbron seems much lower key
and much less visible outside of the University. This may have
been needed initially, after the Fiore dismissal, but I think he
needs to sell the brand more, and certainly become more visible
externally. I mean, except for the athletes, the donors and the
AD fraternity, who even knows his name?
He definitely made a bold pick with Boals as MBB coach, but
after 1 season, I think it was the right move and a good one.
If his main emphasis is the football team, however, then he
needs to make a coaching change, since I think Priore is
definitely not the way to go moving forward.
I gave it a Treading Water, although I would have stated the
option as "hasn't helped the program, hasn't hurt the program
much".
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I like Heilbron and believe he is trying his hardest to raise
money for athletics. We all knew that would be a tough task to
accomplish, but he is trying very hard.. I dont like how he is
not giving coach P the boot, considering SH claims to be a
football first AD and wants to turn SB into a powerhouse. First
things first. Fire the HC and regroup..
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Wolfie_MD Date: March 27, 2017, 5:40 pm
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I'm happy with what Shawn has been doing here. He's done a good
job fundraising which is probably Job #1, 2, and 3 here. The
football stuff does have to get better- if the football team
underachieves yet again, he's going to have to make some tough
moves. He has helped continue explosive growth of women's
lacrosse. The men's lacrosse team has been OK- it should be
better. Women's basketball hasn't made much progress to be
honest. Baseball has been solid and it will stay that way with
Coach Senk. I can't comment on the other sports with any
knowledge but I know he's made moves in volleyball as well.
Men's lacrosse and women's basketball are the two places that
the program could and should improve.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Chairman of the Board Date: May 25, 2017, 9:33 am
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woodruff to loyola!
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i wish her the best of luck. nice move.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
By: Seawolf97 Date: May 25, 2017, 10:41 am
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Good move on her part . Wish her the best she did a fine job
at SBU . And yes I voted for our present AD I think he is
moving us along well as can be expected . See how his 2000 new
seats in the football stadium fill up in September .
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