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       Re: 2011/12: Game 3 Stony Brook @ Sacred Heart
   DIR By: sbufan
       Date: November 16, 2011, 9:37 am
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       Definitely a disappointing loss. It's strange because
       individually almost everyone looks better than last year, but
       the team as a whole hasn't come together. Defense and rebounding
       has been questionable, which is uncharacteristic of Pikiell's
       teams. Bracey seems to be struggling with the speed of the
       Division 1 game. Both Hayes and Dougher haven't been shooting
       that well. Jackson and Coley both look much better than last
       year, but both need to turn the ball over less. Offensively
       Joyner looks better than he ever has. I think Pikiell and his
       staff will go through the film, finalize the rotation, and fix
       the wholes in their defense. There is talent here and I think
       Pikiell will put it together.
       I agree that the program has/is underachieving for a major
       research university, but that's what makes being Stony Brook fan
       so much fun. In my opinion, this school has unlimited potential,
       and the administration realizes this and is taking steps
       capitalize on it. With the Dubin Center under construction, the
       funds freed for the arena renovation, and the recent recruiting
       success, the program is only getting better. Also, most major
       research universities would never agree to an away game Sacred
       Heart, so this loss is kind of unique to Stony Brook in that
       regard.
       #Post#: 587--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011/12: Game 3 Stony Brook @ Sacred Heart
   DIR By: Quickdraw62
       Date: November 16, 2011, 1:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: sbufan link ---
       >
       > Definitely a disappointing loss. It's strange because
       individually almost everyone looks better than last year, but
       the team as a whole hasn't come together. Defense and rebounding
       has been questionable, which is uncharacteristic of Pikiell's
       teams. Bracey seems to be struggling with the speed of the
       Division 1 game. Both Hayes and Dougher haven't been shooting
       that well. Jackson and Coley both look much better than last
       year, but both need to turn the ball over less. Offensively
       Joyner looks better than he ever has. I think Pikiell and his
       staff will go through the film, finalize the rotation, and fix
       the wholes in their defense. There is talent here and I think
       Pikiell will put it together.
       >
       > I agree that the program has/is underachieving for a major
       research university, but that's what makes being Stony Brook fan
       so much fun. In my opinion, this school has unlimited potential,
       and the administration realizes this and is taking steps
       capitalize on it. With the Dubin Center under construction, the
       funds freed for the arena renovation, and the recent recruiting
       success, the program is only getting better. Also, most major
       research universities would never agree to an away game Sacred
       Heart, so this loss is kind of unique to Stony Brook in that
       regard.
       >
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       I think any SB fan has every right to be disappointed right now.
       Last night's loss should not have happened.  That being said,
       IMO there is too much talent, both on the bench and court, for
       them to be anything less than a contending team in the AE.  I
       still expect them to be there at the end of the season.
       However, they must cut down on the TO's, specifically from
       Jackson/Coley.  7 last night between them is wayyyyy too much.
       Joyner must also do a better job of passing out of double teams,
       as he's turning it over too much.  I suspect this is the first
       time he's had this much attention from double teams, etc., and
       he will get better as the season goes on.  Also, they must find
       a way to get Bracey untracked.  He MUST be a consistent threat
       offensively, and to me it's obvious that his defense (or lack
       thereof) is contributing to his minutes (9 last night) on the
       court.  Pikiell demands defense, but in Bracey's defense, it
       doesn't appear that anyone is playing it well.  Finally,
       rebounding must improve or else.....I'd add one more thing:
       someone must be able to facilitate other than Brenton.  Without
       a guard (Martin last year) able to get into the teeth of the
       defense and draw help defenders, this team will see nothing but
       man-man defenses, as opponents will just stay home on the
       shooters (Hayes, Bracey, Rouse) and take their chances with
       dribble penetration.  Overall, way too early to panic, but
       certainly not too early to be concerned.  Next Tuesday vs.
       Columbia at home is a must win, especially with Northwestern
       looming on the horizon...
       #Post#: 590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011/12: Game 3 Stony Brook @ Sacred Heart
   DIR By: ecasadoSBU
       Date: November 16, 2011, 2:50 pm
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       I was pretty dissapointed/pissed. I slept on it, now I'm ok. Its
       part of being a fan. The loss was a bad one.
       Just hope that we can beat Columbia at home! that would be good
       #Post#: 591--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011/12: Game 3 Stony Brook @ Sacred Heart
   DIR By: Quickdraw62
       Date: November 16, 2011, 3:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
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       > I was pretty dissapointed/pissed. I slept on it, now I'm ok.
       Its part of being a fan. The loss was a bad one.
       >
       > Just hope that we can beat Columbia at home! that would be
       good
       >
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       Looks like Columbia's best player is hurt (1st team All-Ivy last
       year), and may be out for the season, so you should be good.
       #Post#: 593--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011/12: Game 3 Stony Brook @ Sacred Heart
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: November 16, 2011, 7:36 pm
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       Columbia is a must win with Northwestern next week. I dont want
       to go to Chicago 1-3.  Hopefully we will see a turn around next
       Tuesday night. And  I'm always optimistic  but last night was a
       letdown.
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