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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: Game Day Date: October 29, 2016, 11:28 pm
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I notice a few type O...Sorry.
Long day...
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: Hammertime Date: October 30, 2016, 5:25 am
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You are beginning to sound like me game day...Frustrating, isn't
it!!!
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: Campi47 Date: October 30, 2016, 7:37 am
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Some other things that I heard in the last couple of days
Aaron Thompson didn't play yesterday because he still isn't
ready and he requested that they petition the NCAA for a 6th
year for his injury however the Coaches don't seem to be
interested in doing this
When Liotine stepped up last year at RB it seemed that this year
he would be the #2 behind Bedel however the coaches couldn't
resist taking Gowins when he became available and he hasn't done
that great a job and now I'm hearing that they have offered 3
RB's from NJ, PA and Florida for the 2017 class
On top of Carbone having issues at QB I also heard that he has
Shoulder problems and hasn't been a 100% for a while
Did anyone see the JMU Rhode Island score 80-7 I think was the
final
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: Seawolf97 Date: October 30, 2016, 10:34 am
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The UNH announcers were rattling off our offensive stats for
this season yesterday. We are just about at the bottom in all
categories some where around 117 or 118 out of 122 teams across
the board. Our coaching staff on offense doesn't seem to want to
step up and improve our offense with the talent we really have.
William and Mary and Maine are going to be tough to beat even
with us at home .
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: guest260 Date: October 30, 2016, 3:32 pm
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It seems like this board and all of us are in a Jekyll and Hyde
routine when it comes to our team. While I am not a "pollster" I
am a former D1 college player and as one there are really only
six facets of the game we are players need to be able to
understand. Passing, running, catching, kicking, blocking and
tackling. Each day in practice and then on game day on Sat/Sun
it up to US to execute on what we are asked to do, across the
other team and their six facets as "players".
Then of course we hire college coaches to do their jobs in the
same areas of these game with the same number of coaches (9) to
get us ready to play and assess the opposing team before and
during the practices and games.
This is where I think we fell short yesterday and in my humble
opinion it started with special team play. Our kicker had some
poor KO's that hurt us and that should be on him!
Our lane guys (which was pointed out a few weeks ago by someone
else) did not stay in their lanes and allowed UNH to get
outside- and again that is on the players! Poor tackling was
once again on display, and at a D1 level is really inexcusable
to see this almost weekly, just like our stupid penalties.
What was a bit strange was that the coaches knowing the UNH kid
was either the best or near the best in ALL of FCS on returns
and we still kicked it to him- and that is on the staff, unless
our Kicker did not do what he was asked of him. And like it or
not, starting out down 7-0 was partially due the KO team and the
coaches.
To the rest of the facts of the game, did not see anything on
offense that led me to believe that in the mirror each guy would
say they beat the other guy across from them. We kept on running
to the left side- and at one point we had 12 rushes for a -4
yards. Our O line yesterday did not get the job done, and
whether that was our running game or picking up stunts and
blitzes, we should be honest that we just did not get it done.
While our QB is ultimately the guy we need to get us going (and
yes again put us in a hole that was tough to get out of
throughout the day) lets not lose sight, that on EVERY given
play there are 21 other guys competing against one another to do
their jobs and on the coaching side these gentleman have a job
to do to get the players ready for each game with whom they
believe are the best to put out there.
All we can do is either get disgusted by the coaches or players
and asked for heads to roll, or just try and see on Saturday
which team (and the staff) shows up; Jekyll or Hyde. I would
love to make a prediction as to the rest of the season- but with
this team one thing that seems to be consistent is in our
inconsistencies! Let's get the next one at home and see
everyone Sat!
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: Hammertime Date: October 30, 2016, 8:26 pm
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[quote author=Game Day link=topic=545.msg16783#msg16783
date=1477855408]
This falls directly on the head coach & i did hear the last
offensive coordinator that left this past year wanted more of a
balance offensive game & using the TE & slot back in the game
plan.
SBU has steadily gotten worst through the last 3 years on
offence; a good QB will steer away from this program due to our
lack of a passing attack.
I do enjoy a strong running game; but teams will shut you down &
stack the line if you don't have balance. Teams do have
weaknesses n it's time for the coaching staff to make adjustment
in there offensive game planning.
If they cannot not then you need to take a serious look at the
the leadership & the direction you want this program to go in.
SBU didn't score points against RI until the 4th quarter (14) &
JMU scored 72 points against RI...wow. SBU wants to be elite
in the CAA...... The program is far from this goal....
We have the players & we need better consistency from our QB &
better gaming planning from the staff.... We have several
transfer players in our offence from D1 program & a few players
that could of easily gone D1; So you can't blame it on the lack
of talent..... It's execution of a solid game plan that works;
the current run dominant will not be efficient if you wish to
win a division & go to playoffs.
If it wasn't for Bedell 4.8 yard per carry that stats would be
even worst; our RB need to get more physical n explosive in the
running game n not get tackle so easily.... Teams are now keying
in on Bedell & it's going to be more difficult.
This seems like a lot and i am not trying to be negative; i no
several family members in the program & they are just as
frustrated about what they see.
These changes can be done; only if they wish to make the changes
& that is the true question that needs to be asked.
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Are you ready for 5 more years of this style of play, game day?
Because thats exactly what you will see. Get used to it.. Coach
P is staying put and SH doesn't have the melons to make a move
at the end of the season...
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: Game Day Date: October 30, 2016, 8:37 pm
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Well at least i can support the SBU & the higher education that
they offer & i will support the athlete that take advantage of
the education that they are offered.
They work very hard to compete on the field & to achieve
nailing a good education.
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: guest260 Date: October 31, 2016, 9:40 am
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GameDay,
Not to argue with you because I am only pointing out the actual
facts when I post. As to stating the "best player" out there,
that is not a moniker any of us who have played the game will
state.
Each position has the number one person and two on the depth
chart and that is for a reason- and any D1 program (down to Pop
Warner- except for when Daddy and Mommy are the head coach to
ensure little Joey and Joanie are the starters) goes over the
depth chart weekly. If 88 was not playing as much as he (or you
would like) then there are more reasons than just
"miscommunication". Having been in a locker room, on the field,
and off the field there is always communication between the
coaches and players. Don't get me wrong, I am not stating its
the best communication but they are communicating.
If 94 was hurt (as the announcers on Sat stated) then how can
there be a "miscommunication" between them? Way to important of
a game, and no way there was not a discussion even before game
day with the statement... "can you go this week, and then its
communicated DAILY between player, staff and trainers so as to
have others in the mix to step in. That is just a fact. As a
former Army Infantry Officer, battle plans (like "game plans")
usually change when the first shot is fired (even at the Army
War College they teach us this), but lets make sure that when
the game plan is drawn up everyone knows their assignments in
their position for that day- and if they are not doing their
job, they need to be moved out for someone else to have the
opportunity! A prime example of that was the Sacred Heart game.
If the leadership of the coaching staff needs to be changed then
that is for the AD to decide. But its still a game being played
by "scholar-athletes" trying to receive a great education.
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: guest260 Date: October 31, 2016, 1:11 pm
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Well, I have been watching this team for years, (and others) so
I have seen the good bad and ugly of this team in every facet.
Every game there are some "bright spots # 2 finally had a nice
game, and we have had some kids get CAA and FCS recognition.
As to watching the game, I am fairly sure on the punt special
teams we shut the returner from UNH down if not totally- so
don't believe all of special teams was bad but KO's and lane
assignments were not as good as they should be in a D1 program.
When the position coaches break down the film (as they always
do-whether it was yesterday today or tomorrow) they will assess
what worked and did not. In my career I have spent enough time
looking and breaking down film- so I will leave that up to the
staff. When I attend the games, I look at it as a former player,
and view what I see works and does not, and comment from my
assessment of the game. Over the past couple of years I have
some great discussions with 21's Dad, but they are just between
he and I and sometimes its around frustration, but also its
about the adjustments made and usually over a hot dog at half
time.
When I can watch (and replay) a down or series of downs, I do it
just to see what the "problem" was or the "success" was. I was
told many many years ago, the game of football is very simple.
You either do your job as a player or coach or you don't. And
each of those outcomes has either a positive or negative effect.
This also helped me in my infantry role- with of course a much
more serious note on each situation. Pretty simple but then I am
just an old foot soldier and football player.
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Re: Stony Brook at New Hampshire
By: guest260 Date: October 31, 2016, 1:38 pm
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Lets just end this topic. You need to then go and talk with SH
(he's fairly accessible) and am sure will take any advice you
offer. To you it appears to be only about #88 so that is what I
would go with and your knowledge of the game.
BTW- I have no idea what you are writing about "spending time
with the coaches this Summer". I actually have a full time job,
and my 80 hours or so a week, don't allow me to the luxury to
interface with coaches on the staff- nor would they want me to,
but then that is the respect most of us a former players don't
cross- and as a news flash our son IS on the team so I have a
dog in the hunt- just not about barking about it.
Today, I happen to be taking a day off so thus my reply's to
your posts.
If you bring so much coaching experience to the game- then by
all means step right up and apply for a position at SBU (again
SH surely would be more than happy to hear your thoughts on
every aspect of the game) but then you'll need to bring some
creds to the table. 33 LAST year did extremely well- but what
does that have to do with THIS year?
Lastly, if that does not work go ahead and become an extension
of the student newspaper where each week, you can Grade out each
and every facet of the game like other local sportswriters do
daily across the country. It might be a new great role for you.
For me I am going to enjoy the rest of my day off.
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