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#Post#: 18891--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: sbufan
Date: August 16, 2017, 8:52 am
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--- Quote from: sbugold link ---
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> Notwithstanding some very good recruiting lately, I've noticed
a very disturbing trend. SBU often goes up against Hofstra for
good talent. Some of those players that both schools recruit
are fiercely recruited by other schools as well, even including
more reputed mid-majors and even some high majors. In the past
week alone, both Jared Rhoden and Samba Diallo (both highly
rated recruits) have narrowed their candidate lists for their
commitment decisions. In both cases, the Seawolves were removed
from consideration. Not all that surprising, you might say.
However, Hofstra remained on the list in each case--WHY?
>
> I've attended games at both schools, and grew up on LI. There
is no doubt in my mind that SBU's facilities and academics are
head and shoulders above Hofstra's. Furthermore, Hofstra's
record was anything but stellar last season. Somehow, we must
get the word out forcefully that if you're a well-rated recruit,
would consider a lesser hailed conference than others that have
offered, and are willing to look at Long Island--the choice
should overwhelmingly be SBU over Hofstra!!
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It's impressive that Hofstra made the cut, but I'm not too
concerned. At least not yet. We don't know how much focus the
staff was placing Rhoden and Diallo, and according to verbal
commits we're still involved with some several high level
commits.
What's strange to me is that Pikiell's staff almost never
competed with Hofstra whereas now Boals seems to have a lot of
overlap. I'm not sure if Boals is aiming higher, or if he has
similar AAU contacts as Mihalich
#Post#: 18905--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: August 16, 2017, 11:45 pm
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Interesting point raised re recruiting competition with Hofstra.
Hofstra plays against teams from mid-Atlantic and Carolinas as
opposed to New England. Also CAA already has a good reputation
as a mid major conference; many still don't realize how much it
has been weakened by departures. May be the advisers to recruits
think it's still the same old conference with stellar mid-major
teams like VCU and GMU etc.
#Post#: 18907--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 17, 2017, 3:35 am
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--- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
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> Interesting point raised re recruiting competition with
Hofstra. Hofstra plays against teams from mid-Atlantic and
Carolinas as opposed to New England. Also CAA already has a good
reputation as a mid major conference; many still don't realize
how much it has been weakened by departures. May be the advisers
to recruits think it's still the same old conference with
stellar mid-major teams like VCU and GMU etc.
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I have been saying since day one when we moved from the Big
South to the CAA, SB needs to move all sports out of the AE and
into the CAA.. Some people feel it's a waste of time and would
only be a lateral because both conferences are one bid
leagues... I disagree with that assessment.. I think the level
of competition is tougher in the CAA as a whole for all sports
then the AE. If you are looking for better athletes, the CAA is
where we belong. Not the AE.. My opinion..
#Post#: 18910--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: August 17, 2017, 9:49 am
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--- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
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> Interesting point raised re recruiting competition with
Hofstra. Hofstra plays against teams from mid-Atlantic and
Carolinas as opposed to New England. Also CAA already has a good
reputation as a mid major conference; many still don't realize
how much it has been weakened by departures. May be the advisers
to recruits think it's still the same old conference with
stellar mid-major teams like VCU and GMU etc.
>
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The last two years have actually been pretty good for the CAA in
terms of RPI. As a conference, they were 9th overall in 2015-16,
and 11th in 2016-17. However, they have been a one-bid league in
each of the last six years, dating back to the VCU/GMU/ODU year
when VCU made the Final Four.
Travel to the CAA schools would be a grind/fortune for all
sports.
#Post#: 18911--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: Chrissy D.
Date: August 17, 2017, 10:24 am
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Hammer this has been explained a few times. SB wanted to mive
all sports to CAA but were blocked by a couple of schools with
Hofstra being one of them. Since Hofstra doesnt have football
anymore they couldnt stop that move.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 17, 2017, 10:38 am
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--- Quote from: Chrissy D. link ---
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> Hammer this has been explained a few times. SB wanted to mive
all sports to CAA but were blocked by a couple of schools with
Hofstra being one of them. Since Hofstra doesnt have football
anymore they couldnt stop that move.
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Just curious. Can Hofstra and others still block SB from making
the leap, if so, why.. Why would they??
#Post#: 18913--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: Seawolf97
Date: August 17, 2017, 10:42 am
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They could if they wanted to . I think Hofstra feels a little
threatened with SBU . Hofstra enrollment is dropping to almost
under 10k students . A few years ago it was nearly 15k but cost
(42,000) a year and the area the campus is may be working
against them .
#Post#: 18914--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 17, 2017, 11:15 am
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> They could if they wanted to . I think Hofstra feels a little
threatened with SBU . Hofstra enrollment is dropping to almost
under 10k students . A few years ago it was nearly 15k but cost
(42,000) a year and the area the campus is may be working
against them .
>
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WOW. I didnt know that about Hofstra enrollment . Maybe they
need to lower the cost of their admissions, too.. It is my
understanding Hofstra not cheap to get in.. But what gives
Hofstra the right to block another institution from
participating in their sports conference just because they feel
threaten? Makes no sense and it should not be allowed. I would
think the CAA commissioner would have a lot to say about that as
well.. It's not like SB isn't already affiliated with the CAA,
so it should just be a matter of fitting us in schedule wise
rather than having a school vote..
#Post#: 18916--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: August 17, 2017, 3:31 pm
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I've said it before and I'll stick by it, I'm not high on the
CAA. It's simply another one bid league and a more competitive
one at that. We're better off being a game or two away from a
tourney appearance yearly in the AE, then losing in the first
round of a more competitive CAA tournament. Until it becomes a
multibid league again I'm not interested. The A10 is a different
animal though. The CAA will be even weaker once JMU leaves for
an FBS all sports conference. Perhaps then we'll get the call
along with Albany,but IDK if we should bite then. It's not a
worthwhile move if you ask me.
The CAA has 10 members, usually conferences require a 2/3rds or
3/4ths vote to admit a new member. Hofstra alone can't block us,
but if another school like say Northeastern joined them out of
fear of regional competition, and then College of Charleston
didn't want to add another member up north, those three together
could have been enough to end our consideration. It's not hard
to form a coalition against schools like this. Serves them right
though. Hofstra can stay in a dying CAA. I could see them coming
back to the AE begging (along with Delaware) once JMU leaves the
CAA.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 17, 2017, 4:11 pm
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--- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
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> I've said it before and I'll stick by it, I'm not high on the
CAA. It's simply another one bid league and a more competitive
one at that. We're better off being a game or two away from a
tourney appearance yearly in the AE, then losing in the first
round of a more competitive CAA tournament. Until it becomes a
multibid league again I'm not interested. The A10 is a different
animal though. The CAA will be even weaker once JMU leaves for
an FBS all sports conference. Perhaps then we'll get the call
along with Albany,but IDK if we should bite then. It's not a
worthwhile move if you ask me.
>
>
> The CAA has 10 members, usually conferences require a 2/3rds
or 3/4ths vote to admit a new member. Hofstra alone can't block
us, but if another school like say Northeastern joined them out
of fear of regional competition, and then College of Charleston
didn't want to add another member up north, those three together
could have been enough to end our consideration. It's not hard
to form a coalition against schools like this. Serves them right
though. Hofstra can stay in a dying CAA. I could see them coming
back to the AE begging (along with Delaware) once JMU leaves the
CAA.
>
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I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at
the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would
think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs
played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up
to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS
before JMU does...
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