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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: SaltySeawolf
Date: March 9, 2017, 3:30 pm
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Very close to .500 season, Rutgers first ever win in the Big 10
Tournament, the first time a 14 seed has ever won in the Big 10
Tournament. Pikiell has had a much better year than Boal's now.
Pikiell is one of the hottest coaches in the country. What he
has done with Rutgers in year 1 is miraculous. In fact, if he
wasn't still in his very first year, I guarantee they would
extend him. Boals did great with Pikiell's players and Pikiell
did great with Eddie Jordan's. Now the question for both is -
can they win at their new place with their own players? By the
way - I am very much in the camp of they can and will.
#Post#: 18143--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: March 9, 2017, 3:54 pm
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--- Quote from: SaltySeawolf link ---
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> Very close to .500 season, Rutgers first ever win in the Big
10 Tournament, the first time a 14 seed has ever won in the Big
10 Tournament. Pikiell has had a much better year than Boal's
now. Pikiell is one of the hottest coaches in the country.
What he has done with Rutgers in year 1 is miraculous. In fact,
if he wasn't still in his very first year, I guarantee they
would extend him. Boals did great with Pikiell's players and
Pikiell did great with Eddie Jordan's. Now the question for
both is - can they win at their new place with their own
players? By the way - I am very much in the camp of they can
and will.
>
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Much better year? Who here expected a 2 seed? We were picked to
finish 7th. Rutgers definitely made some strides and the arrow's
pointing up, but Boals got every last bit out of this group.
#Post#: 18152--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: SaltySeawolf
Date: March 10, 2017, 6:57 am
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From a personal standpoint Pikiell absolutely had a much better
year. He is in the top 4 of the hottest coaches in the country!
Boals did fine, but SBU had its worst season in six years. As
far as expectations - that was a coaches vote and the new guy
always gets the shaft. That vote is all politics.
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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: March 10, 2017, 8:50 am
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--- Quote from: SaltySeawolf link ---
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> From a personal standpoint Pikiell absolutely had a much
better year. He is in the top 4 of the hottest coaches in the
country! Boals did fine, but SBU had its worst season in six
years. As far as expectations - that was a coaches vote and the
new guy always gets the shaft. That vote is all politics.
>
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The new guy may get slighted in that kind of poll, but do you
think it could also be because, you know, we lost our top four
scorers and a three-time conference player of the year? I
realize Pikiell took over a brutal program but he won nine
conference games in his first three years combined and then, to
his credit, the program vaulted into a stratosphere we didn't
know existed. He left when he knew it wasn't going to get any
better. Boals and Co. did much better than "fine." Who saw 12-4
coming? I thought maybe 4-12! Hammer predicted eight wins for
the year! A much better year? No.
The hottest coach thing just isn't true. Rutgers had a very good
year by their standards and checked off a lot of firsts, but few
are talking about Rutgers outside of the northeast.
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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: March 10, 2017, 9:01 am
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This is an interesting debate. I think Pikiell has done a great
job, but not sure if he had a better year than Boals.
If you look at Pikiell's 1st year achievement with glass half
full lense, then yes... Rutgers won 3 games in conference
regular season. They had 2 and 1 conference wins last two years.
Lots of close games this year and team showed real fight,
competitiveness, improved defense, better rebounding and unity.
But, if you look at it with glass half empty lense, Rutgers only
won 3 conference regular season games and last in B10 standing
again. Their total wins look inflated due to cupcake
non-conference schedule for a B10 team. Rutgers did not exceed
expectation in B10 standing.
On the other hand, Boals inherited a team without top 4 (double
digit average) scorers from last year. Forget coaches pick, you
and me, regular fans couldn't have predicted a 12-4 record, 2nd
in AE standing. Most of us would have been happy with a 8-8
record. But to actually host two tournament games at home, was
beyond most of ours expectation.
But again, each one of us will look through our biased lenses.
Boals and Pikiell are in different league now and should have to
be judged differently.
One thing for sure, for any of them to have a chance to succeed
in AE or B10, they better up their recruiting game. Next couple
years will tell, who is more successful.
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