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#Post#: 15583--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Seawolf97
Date: March 24, 2016, 9:15 pm
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The CAA in all sports would and should be our next move.
Whether they merge or not the CAA is respectable and a step up
for us.
#Post#: 15584--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Wolfie_MD
Date: March 24, 2016, 10:42 pm
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Not sure if the CAA in basketball makes sense for us. Both the
CAA and America East are 1 bid leagues in basketball. I'd rather
stick around in the AE for now.
#Post#: 15585--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: March 25, 2016, 3:23 am
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--- Quote from: Wolfie_MD link ---
>
> Not sure if the CAA in basketball makes sense for us. Both the
CAA and America East are 1 bid leagues in basketball. I'd rather
stick around in the AE for now.
>
--- End Quote ---
Doc. The majority of div1 conferences are a 1 bid league, except
for a few. I really dont see SB moving into a power conference
or even a at large friendly conference for a very, very long
time! But moving all sports to the CAA makes sense. And who
knows, if SBB becomes a powerhouse in the future maybe a move
into the A10 for Basketball would work.
#Post#: 15586--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: March 25, 2016, 11:56 am
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Moving to CAA makes no sense, in my opinion.. for the following
reasons:
1) Both CAA and AE are one bid conferences, but CAA is more
competitive. Therefore, chances of making to the NCAA tourney
will be reduced.. since they are both one bid conferences, I
would rather stay in AE, which we can hopefully dominate and get
to the dance more often.
2) 2016 CAA is not the same as 2010 CAA.. programs like VCU and
GMU all left. Even though its still more competitive than AE,
the prestige factor is not there anymore.
3) We don't need CAA to move up in future. Our role model should
be Gonzaga or Davidson. Davidson dominated Southern conference
for a long time and ignored CAA's invites, and moved straight to
Atlantic 10. Again, we don't need to join CAA to get an invite
from Atlantic 10 or MAC in future.
4) CAA footprint is from the Carolinas to Massachusetts. It's a
lot of travel and waste of money to be in another one bid
league. We can use that money to improve our athletics
infrastructure and prepare for a conference even better.
5) Lets review and learn from old AE programs that joined CAA..
like Hofstra, Northeastern and Delaware..what have they have
accomplished in CAA since leaving AE?
6) The most important offer that CAA can make is that it is the
best FCS football conference in the north east .. guess what?..
we are already in CAA football!
How does moving all sports to CAA makes sense?
#Post#: 15587--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: March 26, 2016, 5:19 am
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--- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
>
> Moving to CAA makes no sense, in my opinion.. for the
following reasons:
>
> 1) Both CAA and AE are one bid conferences, but CAA is more
competitive. Therefore, chances of making to the NCAA tourney
will be reduced.. since they are both one bid conferences, I
would rather stay in AE, which we can hopefully dominate and get
to the dance more often.
>
> 2) 2016 CAA is not the same as 2010 CAA.. programs like VCU
and GMU all left. Even though its still more competitive than
AE, the prestige factor is not there anymore.
>
> 3) We don't need CAA to move up in future. Our role model
should be Gonzaga or Davidson. Davidson dominated Southern
conference for a long time and ignored CAA's invites, and moved
straight to Atlantic 10. Again, we don't need to join CAA to get
an invite from Atlantic 10 or MAC in future.
>
> 4) CAA footprint is from the Carolinas to Massachusetts. It's
a lot of travel and waste of money to be in another one bid
league. We can use that money to improve our athletics
infrastructure and prepare for a conference even better.
>
> 5) Lets review and learn from old AE programs that joined
CAA.. like Hofstra, Northeastern and Delaware..what have they
have accomplished in CAA since leaving AE?
>
> 6) The most important offer that CAA can make is that it is
the best FCS football conference in the north east .. guess
what?.. we are already in CAA football!
>
> How does moving all sports to CAA makes sense?
>
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I understand your logic ibosbu, but in my opinion the CAA is
still a stronger conference all around with sports, maybe Lax
being the exception because of UA. The only way to grow and get
better is to play a stronger schedule within your own
conference,year after year. Most student athletes prefer to go
to a school that is very strong in the sport that they are in.
In Football, this is definitely the case. I'd imagine for
recruiting purposes, the pool for potential athletes is bigger
in the CAA then the AE which ranks consistently in the basement
of all div1 sports.. The CAA is a jump up from the AE and I
think SB can handle the additional travel expenses as you
mentioned. If UA moves out of the AE, that leaves SB as the last
and only competitive school in the conference with most
sports...For me, I rather be in the middle of the pack in a
strong conference with multiple schools with winning records
then being in 1st place in a conference that has a bad RPI and
SOS multiple schools with hideous losing records.. Again, this
is only my opinion and I could be wrong with my thesis...
#Post#: 15588--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: sbugold
Date: March 26, 2016, 7:55 am
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Looks like we've gotten a little off track here onto a
conference move discussion.
Back to the point, it looks like Rickard and probably Dougher
are both headed over to Rutgers to be with Pikiell. I think
that this makes it highly unlikely that Jay Young will be SBU's
choice. He seems to have the inside track for the CCSU job, and
would be losing all his cohorts with the Seawolves.
I'm really looking forward to seeing who the major candidates
are.
#Post#: 15589--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: sbufan
Date: March 26, 2016, 10:09 am
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--- Quote from: sbugold link ---
>
> Looks like we've gotten a little off track here onto a
conference move discussion.
>
> Back to the point, it looks like Rickard and probably Dougher
are both headed over to Rutgers to be with Pikiell. I think
that this makes it highly unlikely that Jay Young will be SBU's
choice. He seems to have the inside track for the CCSU job, and
would be losing all his cohorts with the Seawolves.
>
> I'm really looking forward to seeing who the major candidates
are.
--- End Quote ---
Me too. I'm obviously biased, but I think this is a very
attractive mid major job. Our facilities and resources compared
to the rest of AE should make Stony Brook an relatively easy
place to win, and thus a great launching pad for a coaches
career. I think there will be some very impressive names
looking to take over the helm.
#Post#: 15594--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Chrissy D.
Date: March 26, 2016, 1:54 pm
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They tried to move all sports to CAA when football moved and
were blocked by Hofstra, who had no say in football because they
dropped program. How has the move to CAA worked for Hofstra. I
don't really see how moving helps. You need to win and play in
national tournaments to gain recruits. Kids want exposure, they
want to see banners hanging. This is not the SEC , its mid
major. If its not broke then don't fix it. Look at Boise St. in
football if, small conf works for them. And were exactly is all
this wealth of Stony Brook money. They have to beg the public to
match the funds on the indoor practice facility. Football didn't
need to move. The big south had Charleston southern ranked #1
for 8 weeks last year. They were a 4 seed in the tourney. They
were a 2 bid conf for second yr in a row. Coastal Carolina is
moving to div 1 from that conf. When you are a mid major your
goal is to qualify for the playoffs, it doesn't matter what conf
your doing it from. Yes big fish in a small pond is way better
than saying you play in the CAA.
#Post#: 15596--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: March 28, 2016, 10:50 am
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Pikiell already recruiting really good players out of Jersey
especially the school where Warney came from. I hope the next
head coach for SB has strong ties to AAU schools close by.
HTML http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/3590372350355534256/roselle-catholics-matt-bullock-commits-to-rutgers-and-coach-steve-pikiell/
#Post#: 15598--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
DIR By: Seawolf97
Date: March 28, 2016, 3:06 pm
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This is going to be an interesting pick. I expect there
will be a meet and greet once our new coach arrives and gets
settled.
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