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Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: November 15, 2011, 10:41 am
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I'd like to see both Liberty and SB on fire next year so the
other gets an at-large bid. It's going to take both teams losing
no more than two games each, but even with one or more BCS
opponents on the schedule, it's possible.
#Post#: 544--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: sbufan
Date: November 15, 2011, 10:48 am
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I honestly think the conference is only going to get better. I
think coach Nichol's is doing a great job at Presbyterian and
expect them to just get better every year as they continue to
add scholarships and settle in D1A football. I think Gardner
Webb is only going to get better next year as Dickerson has
another year to put his system in place. Coastal has been very
good in the past and there's no reason why they can't be that
good again. I definitely think the Big South can be a two bid
league next year.
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Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: jcmanson
Date: November 15, 2011, 11:20 am
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Liberty's OOC schedule next year will be very difficult:
@ Wake Forest
vs Lehigh (Patriot League champ 2 years running)
vs Norfolk St (MEAC champ)
another game which hasn't been confirmed yet against an FCS
power
If we come through all of that plus conference play with only 2
losses I'll be doing cartwheels.
#Post#: 546--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: sbufan
Date: November 15, 2011, 12:30 pm
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--- Quote from: jcmanson link ---
>
> Liberty's OOC schedule next year will be very difficult:
> @ Wake Forest
> vs Lehigh (Patriot League champ 2 years running)
> vs Norfolk St (MEAC champ)
> another game which hasn't been confirmed yet against an FCS
power
>
> If we come through all of that plus conference play with only
2 losses I'll be doing cartwheels.
>
--- End Quote ---
The last game is against richmond right? And then the 5th out of
conference would be a d2? I'd expect you guys to go 3 and 2 out
of conference with that schedule and then one loss in the big
south and hopefully you would get an at large.
Stony Brook 2012 ooc looks like this
@Army
@Marshall or Cincinatti I forget which
Central connecticut
Colgate
I think 2012 will be a special team for Stony Brook. I think 1
out of conference loss is a real possibility. The big loss to
graduation is Jackolski who without question is a special
player, but I think Cruz will step into that role quite nicely.
Cruz has 330 yards (averaging 11.1 ypc) and 4 touchdowns in his
30 carries this season. With 4 offensive lineman and all of our
tight ends/fullbacks returning, I don't think the running game
will miss a beat. Essington comes back with more experience and
veteran recievers in Norrell and Gush.
#Post#: 547--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: November 15, 2011, 12:40 pm
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Regarding Jackolski (maybe this belongs in another thread)— he
may in fact have a shot at the NFL. He's a bit undersized for a
running back, but his speed (I heard 4.3) and his stats could
get him selected...at least on special teams.
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Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: November 15, 2011, 12:57 pm
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Guys, why are we getting so ahead of ourselves. We have the
biggest game in the Big South conference season four days away
and ya are already talking about next year!! Relax!!! Lets enjoy
the moment. lol
I think the time is perfect to make our picks for saturday:
SB 42 - LU 38
GO SEAWOLVES!!!!!
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(I've come to the conclusion that in order for this conference
to get two bids, every league team will have to face at least
two top FCS teams to increase its level of play... or that SB
and Liberty both go 9-2 or 8-3 which is unlikely due to the
early season guarantee games. SB and LU are quality teams but we
need the respect conference-wide in order to justify our
at-large berth eligibility)
#Post#: 549--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: November 15, 2011, 1:05 pm
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OK e-, I'll return to the game, but still regarding Jackolski—
Last year Liberty stopped kicking to him because he burned them
a few times on kickoff/punts...including for a touchdown. It'll
be interesting to see if they give him a chance this year, or
start off kicking out of bounds from the start.
#Post#: 551--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: Knucklehead
Date: November 15, 2011, 1:23 pm
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We do not play Richmond until 2013 and 2014. The Mystery team
is going to be awesome I hear.
Anyway I guess we are making picks now. I hadn't given the
score a lot of thought till now. I am not sure why everyone
feels that the RBs that a lesser LU defense held down pretty
well last year are going to go nuts. Don't forget that LU's run
D may be the best you have faced all year based on the stats. I
think they will get some good yards but they will not go as nuts
as they have for the last few weeks. I think this game comes
down to us being tight enough in the passing game that you guys
have to ruly on the run which we will slow down significantly.
Then it comes down to Mike Brown and company with our Passing
offense and Mike Brown and company with our run game.
I think some folks who thought LU would beat SBU a few weeks ago
are now reading too much into the last few weeks for both LU and
SBU and some are flip flopping. Liberty was very banged up in
those 2 games and played down to their opponets and WON. SBU
was mostly healthy and took care of business handily. Let's not
forget that LU was an all american kicker shy of beating JMU and
likely Lehigh. I believe we have the better all around team as
I did at the start of the season.
We are where we thought we would be with both undefeated in
conference, and I can't wait for this game!
I say we end up with: Liberty - 42 SBU 28
#Post#: 552--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: November 15, 2011, 1:36 pm
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Honestly. I just threw my score in there. I didn't think much of
it. My only requirement was that Stony Brook played out to be
the winner. Everything else i skipped! lol
Thats the awesomeness of picks right there!
As you said, it all depends how much LU contains Stony Brook's
running offense. Depending how that goes, we might have to use
more of our passing game. Even though I like the passing game
better than early in the season, much improved, its obvious that
relying on the passing game will get us out of comfort zone .
For a team that has been running all season long to have to
switch up in the last game is not the best that can happen...
Still, Im confident that the outcome will be favorable for Stony
Brook and that Liberty wont be as successful as last year
defending against this. I can see it in my eyes already as
hundreds rush the field after the Big win (similar to sundays
Soccer Championship victory) for our Football program. hehehe
Btw, Knucklehead thanks for being here, it adds to the
discussion. Makes it more interesting.
#Post#: 553--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
DIR By: jcmanson
Date: November 15, 2011, 1:49 pm
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Our All-American Kicker has been hurt off and on since the JMU
game. Since then we've used our backup kicker for all kickoffs.
He doesn't have nearly the leg of Matt Bevins. He generally gets
the ball to the 10-15 and to be honest our kickoff coverage has
been suspect all year. I really hope we gameplan well for this
facet of the game as it could be huge.
Also, our kick returner, Kevin Fogg, leads the country with 3
kickoff returns for touchdowns. Both teams are top 5 in the
country in kickoff returns and may be #1 and #2.
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