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       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: ddmd
       Date: June 30, 2016, 5:51 pm
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       Crissy;
       Ben did not make grades & he is not coming to SBU this season; i
       heard this from within the program....
       #Post#: 16034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: June 30, 2016, 6:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: ddmd link ---
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       > Crissy;
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       > Ben did not make grades & he is not coming to SBU this season;
       i heard this from within the program....
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       --- End Quote ---
       He's on. He's off. He's on. He's off!!!! I guess we'll find out
       sept, 1st at 7:00 pm...
       #Post#: 16035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: June 30, 2016, 8:44 pm
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       Maybe just as well. If you ant make it in a junior college then
       SBU would be really tough even with academic advisors
       #Post#: 16036--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Campi47
       Date: July 1, 2016, 9:40 am
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       I just spoke to the head of SBU Recruiting and he confirmed that
       Ben Holmes will not be coming because of Academics and that
       right now it's Carbone (1) and Kirwin (2) there also going to
       see what Fields can do once Camp opens
       #Post#: 16037--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Wolfie_MD
       Date: July 1, 2016, 2:01 pm
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       Holmes also changed his Twitter- pic of SBU is gone and his bio
       doesn't mention Stony Brook anymore. Pretty disappointing news
       actually.
       Huge red flag if he couldn't make grades here- we're not asking
       for a 4.0
       I'm not a huge fan of Carbone- would like to see what Irwin and
       Fields have to offer.
       #Post#: 16038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Chrissy D.
       Date: July 1, 2016, 4:31 pm
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       Yeah, I just found out at camp today about the grade issue with
       Holmes. Disappointing to say the least. No offense to the kid
       but I can't sit through another year with Carbone. They need to
       have Fields step up and win the job.
       #Post#: 16039--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: July 2, 2016, 8:07 am
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       I agree  start one of the Freshmen and develop him over 4 years
       . I don't think Carbone is the answer at starter .
       #Post#: 16041--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: sbufan
       Date: July 2, 2016, 12:00 pm
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       Regarding Carbone: players improve. He has his freshman season
       game tape to study and learn from. I'm sure he's made some
       adjustments and hopefully the coaches have as well.
       #Post#: 16052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: BigFatFan
       Date: July 5, 2016, 10:09 am
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       the continuing saga of SB football mismanaging the QB position.
       we're back to hoping and praying for success at this position
       once again in 2017.
       #Post#: 16053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: July 5, 2016, 12:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: BigFatFan link ---
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       > the continuing saga of SB football mismanaging the QB
       position.  we're back to hoping and praying for success at this
       position once again in 2017.
       >
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       Yes we are. And why is that???????? One man. Head coach... This
       will only continue until he leaves..
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