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       #Post#: 15880--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Campi47
       Date: May 15, 2016, 4:16 pm
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       I saw a lot of College Coaches this weekend and I picked up some
       SBU rumors
       Even though they are not counting on Ben Holmes because of the
       Academic issues he has been going to College and taking the 2
       classes he needs to pass so he can get into SBU for the Fall
       semester and according to his JC Coach he has been working very
       hard to make that happen
       SBU has sent their DC to visit a very good player who might
       transfer in within the next week or so
       They have concerns on their Punter and just might take a hard
       look at the left Footer Punter that is coming in from Chaminade
       #Post#: 15883--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: May 15, 2016, 7:03 pm
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       Good info lets see what happens.
       #Post#: 15885--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: guest260
       Date: May 16, 2016, 9:00 am
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       Who is "they" have concerns on the Punter? Did not hear much
       about this from the Spring game nor did I see problems at the
       Spring game. As to Holmes, I am not one who is wanting to "say
       prayers" that Joe C does not become the starter and Holmes does,
       and our season rests alone Holmes being "anointed" as the QB
       savior.
       #Post#: 15886--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: sbugold
       Date: May 16, 2016, 9:14 am
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       I have mixed feelings about Holmes now.  On the one hand, I'd
       love to see him make it, because I truly believe he could be the
       missing piece of the puzzle to finally make the offense tick.
       He certainly does seem to have the tools.
       On the other hand, would Coach simply be buying in to a bigger
       problem?  If  Holmes is struggling to make it through NCCC, what
       are his chances of his making it academically at a much more
       challenging curriculum at SBU?  It wouldn't be so great if he
       were chosen as the offensive leader, and then became
       academically ineligible shortly thereafter.
       #Post#: 15887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: May 16, 2016, 10:24 am
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       My sentiments exactly .  If he cant make it at a junior college
       how is he going   to make it at SBU.  Hence we have no QB to
       speak of right now  going into the middle of May.
       #Post#: 15889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: sbufan
       Date: May 16, 2016, 10:59 am
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       I imagine Stony Brook has more academic support (tutors and
       advising) in place to help athletes succeed academically so I'm
       not too concerned about whether he'll be able to make grades at
       Stony Brook. I agree that I'm not sold on him being our answer
       at QB. I also think we might be too critical of Carbone. It'll
       be interesting to see how this all shakes out.
       #Post#: 15892--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 16, 2016, 11:34 am
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       --- Quote from: sbugold link ---
       >
       > I have mixed feelings about Holmes now.  On the one hand, I'd
       love to see him make it, because I truly believe he could be the
       missing piece of the puzzle to finally make the offense tick.
       He certainly does seem to have the tools.
       >
       > On the other hand, would Coach simply be buying in to a bigger
       problem?  If  Holmes is struggling to make it through NCCC, what
       are his chances of his making it academically at a much more
       challenging curriculum at SBU?  It wouldn't be so great if he
       were chosen as the offensive leader, and then became
       academically ineligible shortly thereafter.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Great point Gold. What a disaster that would be if coach P made
       him the starter and in the middle of the season he would have to
       sit out and Carbone comes back in as a starter. It would be Deja
       Vu all over again!!!!
       #Post#: 15894--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 16, 2016, 11:52 am
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       --- Quote from: sbufan link ---
       >
       > I imagine Stony Brook has more academic support (tutors and
       advising) in place to help athletes succeed academically so I'm
       not too concerned about whether he'll be able to make grades at
       Stony Brook. I agree that I'm not sold on him being our answer
       at QB. I also think we might be too critical of Carbone. It'll
       be interesting to see how this all shakes out.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I feel if Carbone is our starter for this season it will only be
       a continuation of last year disaster. We need to bring in a
       competitive quarterback, either a Freshman or Juco transfer, I
       dont care. A quarterback with big time experience, like Vad Lee
       was for JMU, before he got hurt. Let's stop playing games and
       get serious about throwing scholarships at  better players. JMU,
       Villanova, W&M, UNH all do it, why cant Stony Brook do it??? If
       coach P doesn't shine this year then he is completely out of
       excuses and his contract should be bought out and he needs to
       go. Go coach for some div2 or div3 upstate somewhere!!
       #Post#: 15895--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: CTWolfie
       Date: May 16, 2016, 12:17 pm
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       I am sorry to hear that the kid from NCC is having a hard time
       getting the grades in the courses he needs in order to transfer
       to SBU.  I wish him well.
       I am going into the 2016 with an open mind about #10.  He is
       athletic.  He is a competitor.  He is tough. And, he is only a
       sophomore. Hopefully he learned a lot last season. The receivers
       are capable of making him look good, as is the running game with
       the people we have in the backfield this year.  But all of this
       depends on a quality offensive line.  We still lack depth and
       experience other than at LT and LG.  Who knows what the transfer
       from WVU will add, if anything.  But if we don't have an answer
       at RG & RT it will be a difficult season regardless of who is in
       the backfield either at QB or RB.  And if we get one or two
       injuries along the OL, it will be devastating.
       #Post#: 15899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: ddmd
       Date: May 16, 2016, 6:32 pm
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       Be patient things are happening within the program for the 2016
       season..... this team has talent on both sides of the ball.
       They are working hard.....
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