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       #Post#: 15785--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: sbugold
       Date: April 29, 2016, 8:48 am
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       What about the freshman coming in from Westchester (Tyquell
       Fields)?  Wasn't he supposed to be excellent?  Maybe they can
       bring along quickly.  Other teams seem to find a way to groom
       freshman for starting roles, why can't SBU?
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       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: BigFatFan
       Date: April 29, 2016, 10:22 am
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       we could have been a 7-3 team last year, despite all the RB
       injuries.  just too many issues with play calling and
       questionable use of the QB position last year hurt us big time.
       if we would have beaten Elon, which we should have, despite a 4
       interception first half from Carbone, we would have been 6-4,
       but we ended up 5-5.  we flat out blew the Towson game also.
       #Post#: 15787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: ddmd
       Date: April 29, 2016, 12:46 pm
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       It's very hard to throw a freshman QB as a leader going into the
       season;  he played the same style of offence as Carbone who
       loves to run with the ball.
       This is why they are using the spread more in the future at SBU.
       Number 1# priority; QB & OL....we need players; we have enough
       talent in the offence to do some damage TE & WR.
       We have the following already...
       2 Good TE with good hand & speed & size;  another TE with good
       blocking skills. We have additional 4 other TE if we need them.
       3 good wide recieivers; 2 were transfers.
       3 good running back & 1 of them is a good slot back with good
       hands n quick as hell.
       We only have 4 returning OL who have game time experience; Davis
       who is a true TE/DE who went back to TE & will help alot in the
       blocking and passing game. There is currently only 4 additional
       OL players on this team who have very little game experience & 1
       is coming back from shoulder surgery & he was a TE last season
       (Jackson)  but did not play at TE.
       I love these statements like campi who thinks the fans are out
       of touch with the game; please spare me the quotes.   SBU needs
       to address the teams weaknesses; it's verry simple. You cannot
       throw players into  a positions that the have not played & give
       them 2 months to be able to adjust; it isually doesnt work out
       very well.
       It was verry clear last season we have issue; the DB & CB look
       much bigger & stronger....very positive.
       The DL is still working out kinks from players we lost.
       The OL & QB is a huge issue n you cannot ignore it...we have a
       transfer from WVA coming in this summer; he has had limited reps
       at OL but has very good size.
       I cheer for SBU every game & i travel thousands miles  to every
       game; but i am a realist & you cannot ignore these concearns
       going into 2016.  When a team has not improved  or resolved
       issue from last seasons fans will target coaching; SBU had a lot
       of injuries last season on this team & it did effect the outcome
       of the games we played.
       This season they had to improve issue at key positions or this
       team was going to have averagge year at best.
       We have 3 months; I hope a QB is on there shopping list this
       summer & maybe another OL.
       I have also read where Washington 1st desire is to play at
       Rutgers & he reached out to them.  Rutgers is going to offer him
       this year from what been told......& he okay with sitting out
       this season at Rutgers; he will have 2 years eligibility
       remaining.
       He wasnt born on the island; he went to school for a short time
       on the island & his family is from New Jersey.
       This Monday morning QB is out...
       #Post#: 15788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Campi47
       Date: April 29, 2016, 1:20 pm
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       I'm closer to the program than you are and quite frankly you
       give it a break you don't know as much as you think and I
       believe that I'm not ready to throw this season out just yet
       let's see what happens when the games begin and I will be the
       first one to admit that we're on the wrong path if we have
       another losing season but are you going to stand up when we have
       a good season and praise the Coaching Staff
       #Post#: 15789--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: April 29, 2016, 2:04 pm
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       Everyone needs to calm down and follow the forum rules or we
       will lock the thread.
       #Post#: 15790--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Chrissy D.
       Date: April 29, 2016, 2:38 pm
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       First off, coach went out and got 2 highly rated qbs for this
       yr. Its unfortunate that Holmes can't make his grades, then
       again if he had good grades to begin with he wouldn't have been
       at Nassau CC. To say that a freshman can't come in and start
       would be wrong, it happens all the time. Not coaches fault that
       kid couldnt  make grades. They have Catapano coming in and is
       projected to start at center. They went out and added a lineman
       from WV. Also went out and got two BC transfers at RB and WR.
       You can't say that they have not addressed holes. There are only
       so many scholarships to go around. There are walk ons coming
       also. And yes when u lose an NFL caliber DE you are going to
       take a step back at that position. But there track record at
       devolping defensive talent has been good. I do not know any
       coaches personally so it really doesn't matter to me who the
       coach is. Having played there myself I do support the staff,
       cause things are a lot better than they used to be. Everyone is
       entitled to their opinion, but when its the same old bashing the
       staff and program, it gets old quickly. Some of you think Piekel
       underachieved. That's just nonsense. I root for the school cause
       I went there. I let the AD make the decisions. Div 1 coaching is
       not easy.
       #Post#: 15791--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: BigFatFan
       Date: April 29, 2016, 2:52 pm
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       I agree with Chrissy, a frosh QB could come in and start.  look
       at Jared Goff, started his freshman year at Cal, and is now the
       No. 1 pick in the NFL draft.  May we be so fortunate with our
       incoming frosh QB.  fingers crossed.
       #Post#: 15792--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Campi47
       Date: April 29, 2016, 3:24 pm
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       I also love this program because I have now scouted HS talent
       around the Country for 3 coaches since 1980 with Coach Kemp,
       then Coach Kornhauser and then Coach P and believe me when I say
       how hard they worked to get the program to where it is now and
       they bring in the best Athletes they can get their hands. I'm a
       realist in that we don't have a hot bed for recruiting HS
       Football Players on LI because when you look at the other CAA
       Colleges a lot of them have a stronger area to recruit from then
       we do. I don't want to make excuses because the Coaches won't
       make excuses but until we get more players like Will Tye and
       Victor Ochi to make the NFL Jump we are not going to attract the
       great players right now we are taking who we can convince to
       come here and hope they develop into stars.
       If I have upset anyone with my comments I apologize however we
       have to remember this is SBU not the SEC or one of the other
       power conferences also they are talking to 2 Linemen who are
       transferring from DI programs right now so hopefully that will
       workout
       
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       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: April 29, 2016, 4:19 pm
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       Don't take it to heart Campi. Having conversations like this is
       actually a good way for others to be informed and educated on
       whats going on with SB Football. You give great information to
       this forum  and sounds like you work very hard to help our
       coaches find quality, local talent and i applaud you for that.
       keep up the good work and keep us informed on local upcoming
       talent.
       My boy plays for Ward melville  as a Sophmore and wold love
       nothing more but to get a chance to play for SB one day.. I
       would love that too!!!
       #Post#: 15794--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 Football Recruiting
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: April 29, 2016, 4:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: Campi47 link ---
       >
       > I'm closer to the program than you are and quite frankly you
       give it a break you don't know as much as you think and I
       believe that I'm not ready to throw this season out just yet
       let's see what happens when the games begin and I will be the
       first one to admit that we're on the wrong path if we have
       another losing season but are you going to stand up when we have
       a good season and praise the Coaching Staff
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I will be the very first person on this forum to praise coach P
       if he turns this program around. Mark it!!!!!!!!!!!
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