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#Post#: 18029--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Chairman of the Board Date: March 1, 2017, 9:12 pm
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since most agree here that one giant hurdle is attendance- cant
fill an 8200 hundred seat stadium on a regular basis. how to
fill 15k?
cant fill either if kids arent on campus. it aint gonna be 15k
locals.
#Post#: 18031--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Seawolf97 Date: March 1, 2017, 10:00 pm
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That's the problem in a nutshell . Folks don't come out in
great numbers for SBU Football . If the weather is rain or cold
then even less butts are in the seats. We shall see going
forward.
#Post#: 18036--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Chairman of the Board Date: March 2, 2017, 9:53 am
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the good news is that with a large campus (over 20k students,
half on campus, thousands of faculty) it's possible to tap this
base to fill LaValle.
next question is how to keep them on campus, and then more
importantly, how to get them to the game.
#Post#: 18038--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: March 2, 2017, 11:28 am
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Our biggest problem these past four seasons has been that we
suck. Last year was really looking like a breakthrough season
where we could have returned to the playoffs, but then we sh*t
the bed. No reason we should lose to friggin Sacred Heart. We
have way too much talent to be a 5 win team annually, even in
the CAA. We should always be winning AT LEAST 7 games and be in
the playoff hunt.
Attendance from October on has always been bad, but start
winning and people will show up. The brand of football we play
too also may have something to do with it. People like to watch
the tempo/spread offenses of the Baylor's and Oregon's of the
world. With Hemphill gone, it's possible we don't even win 5
next year.
Get Priore out of there and things will improve. I appreciate
what he's done for the program, but he's now stagnated. It's
looking like all those Big South titles and playoff appearances
were more the result of Hofstra's program folding and us having
a huge talent advantage compared to the rest of the Big South
than him.
#Post#: 18040--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Hammertime Date: March 2, 2017, 3:17 pm
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg18038#msg18038
date=1488475720]
Our biggest problem these past four seasons has been that we
suck. Last year was really looking like a breakthrough season
where we could have returned to the playoffs, but then we sh*t
the bed. No reason we should lose to friggin Sacred Heart. We
have way too much talent to be a 5 win team annually, even in
the CAA. We should always be winning AT LEAST 7 games and be in
the playoff hunt.
Attendance from October on has always been bad, but start
winning and people will show up. The brand of football we play
too also may have something to do with it. People like to watch
the tempo/spread offenses of the Baylor's and Oregon's of the
world. With Hemphill gone, it's possible we don't even win 5
next year.
Get Priore out of there and things will improve. I appreciate
what he's done for the program, but he's now stagnated. It's
looking like all those Big South titles and playoff appearances
were more the result of Hofstra's program folding and us having
a huge talent advantage compared to the rest of the Big South
than him.
[/quote]
Bravo, bravo!!! I agree wholeheartedly.. Problem SB has with
coach P is his contract.. We are stuck with him if you like it
or not. SB could go 0-22 for the next 2 seasons and he will be
our coach. His contract runs through the 2018 season. Read it
and weep.
#Post#: 18043--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: OldSeawolf Date: March 2, 2017, 7:18 pm
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There are ways to fill the stands, but it will not happen
overnight. Winning certainly breeds enthusiasm which will help
fill the stands. Look at what the signing of Warney did to the
basketball program. Getting that kind of marquis player can do
wonders for a team, and its ability to draw fans at the gate.
Is it easy to get that kind of marquis star to come to Stony
Brook.....no way! It takes work and perseverance on many
levels, and sometimes takes a bit of luck as well.
Regarding football, you have to start at home on Long Island,
IMO. 3MM people live out here and we're the only DI football
team on the Island. There are lots of kids who want to stay
home, play football at the D1 level, but know they aren't good
enough to play at Alabama or a marquis football program, but are
outstanding players. We need to recruit heavily from the area,
and establish a presence, that becomes a magnet for strong local
talent. And most of all, you need to attract a Long Island QB
that can be the fulcrum of the team. Coaching aside, it all
starts with the QB.
Here are some ideas on how to fill the stands, and how to obtain
the best talent on Long Island. It takes money to market the
team, so we need to budget for these items, but the payoff
(prestige and financial) will come down the road:
1) Offer a free full-year academic scholarship to one lucky
student every game. Advertise this in the campus newspapers and
with flyers around campus and especially, in the dorms. No
excuse for students not packing the stands every week;
2) SBU athletic staff needs to stay plugged in to the High
School football programs on Long Island, particularly the strong
ones. Provide free tickets to High School
Football Programs in the area, on a rotating basis, to help
promote the SBU brand. Do this for every game. Create a buzz
amongst Long Island High School players;
3) Create a free weekly digital magazine for the football team,
that is distributed to every Long Island High School football
program, and to local community members. You need the locals to
start identifying with the only game in town, and a digital
magazine adds credence and visibility to the program;
4) Establish weekly coaching media segments on News12, WFAN, and
on Newsday.com without fail;
5) Establish bonuses for coaching staffs and even the AD. Let
part of the compensation packages be contingent on performance
on the field. Winning attracts talent, not only athletically,
but academically as well. Winning fills seats, even if it's 35
degrees outside and raining.
Yes, we are doing some of this already, but we need to do it
better, if we want to grow the program, and take that next step.
It's a process, and it takes time. Attracting talent and
winning will result in more talent being acquired, more fan
interest, and will snowball as time moves on.
We've come a long way over the years for sure, but there's a
much longer and more fruitful journey ahead to get to the next
plateau.
#Post#: 18044--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: March 3, 2017, 9:13 am
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OldSeawolf,
Those are All EXCELLENT ideas!! You need a job in the athletic
department because each of those would definitely drive up
attendance AND good players/coaches coming to the program. That
right there is how you do it. 1 and 2 are absolutely brilliant.
Most kids at SBU (and rightfully so) are VERY academically
inclined, unfortunately to the point where a lot of them don't
care about athletics or anything else. Giving out a free year of
tuition potentially just for attending a football game? That
would drive up attendance bigly!
Free tickets for LI high schools is also another great way to
drive up interest from local recruits! Hell, invite entire
varsity rosters to games with free tickets on a rotating basis
so that teams can make a full event out of the game itself.
Really get them invested early. Also, we have a tendency to only
offer walk-on spots and not scholarships to local players. We
might want to look into that. Performance based bonuses for the
coaches should be a given and any cost would easily be offset by
the exposure if we can go on the kind of run JMU went on this
past season. Excellent points.
#Post#: 18045--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: iBOsbu Date: March 3, 2017, 9:41 am
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Great post OldSeawolf!
#Post#: 18047--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: iBOsbu Date: March 3, 2017, 9:49 am
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg18038#msg18038
date=1488475720]
Our biggest problem these past four seasons has been that we
suck. Last year was really looking like a breakthrough season
where we could have returned to the playoffs, but then we sh*t
the bed. No reason we should lose to friggin Sacred Heart. We
have way too much talent to be a 5 win team annually, even in
the CAA. We should always be winning AT LEAST 7 games and be in
the playoff hunt.
Attendance from October on has always been bad, but start
winning and people will show up. The brand of football we play
too also may have something to do with it. People like to watch
the tempo/spread offenses of the Baylor's and Oregon's of the
world. With Hemphill gone, it's possible we don't even win 5
next year.
Get Priore out of there and things will improve. I appreciate
what he's done for the program, but he's now stagnated. It's
looking like all those Big South titles and playoff appearances
were more the result of Hofstra's program folding and us having
a huge talent advantage compared to the rest of the Big South
than him.
[/quote]
That is a good point. Stars like Maysonet and others from
Hofstra created a sudden influx of football talent into Stony
Brook football and gave us a huge boost.
#Post#: 18049--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Seawolf97 Date: March 3, 2017, 12:10 pm
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I think Old Seawolf made some great new points to promote our
football program . I would add advertising locally. I travelled
the Metro North Railroad many times . In the fall all you see on
the trains and on the stations was the Army Football schedule
posters. In the winter you would see the Fordham Basketball
Schedule . Neither program are world beaters but they do put
themselves out there for the public to see. It couldn't hurt to
make a deal with the MTA for posters on trains and in stations
with our football schedule and Wolfie up in print, especially
stations on the east end of Suffolk County. Even if only 100
extra people showed up for game it could spread by word of
mouth .
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