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#Post#: 36745--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: September 2, 2022, 7:05 am
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all true. and, wont the big12 just raid those "lesser" western
conferences? i dunno, maybe colorado state or nevada, boise,
SDst, maybe even the ND schools or hawai'i. not much excitement
but if they lose OSU and TTU, maybe they come calling...
and then, as i have been predicting, those mega conferences will
just split in two (as many already have). then you get the big
money tv title game. and, you get more teams under the
conference banner, but ultimately no real difference as they'll
still be somewhat in "separate" conferences.
certainly, 20 years ago, the 6 power conferences and 8 BCS bowls
is starting to look like the golden age. the SEC wasnt as
dominant and the big east went to national title games.
#Post#: 36788--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: September 7, 2022, 8:42 pm
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
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> all true. and, wont the big12 just raid those "lesser"
western conferences? i dunno, maybe colorado state or nevada,
boise, SDst, maybe even the ND schools or hawai'i. not much
excitement but if they lose OSU and TTU, maybe they come
calling...
>
> and then, as i have been predicting, those mega conferences
will just split in two (as many already have). then you get the
big money tv title game. and, you get more teams under the
conference banner, but ultimately no real difference as they'll
still be somewhat in "separate" conferences.
>
> certainly, 20 years ago, the 6 power conferences and 8 BCS
bowls is starting to look like the golden age. the SEC wasnt as
dominant and the big east went to national title games.
>
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yes, quoting myself.
HTML https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/34544151/commissioner-brett-yormark-says-big-12-expansion-strategy-going-west
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> Commissioner Brett Yormark says Big 12's expansion strategy is
about 'going out west'
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> Speaking Wednesday during a visit to future Big 12 member
Cincinnati, Yormark told reporters that the league would be
interested in adding members from the Pacific time zone. The new
commissioner has taken a bold approach toward expansion, saying
at football media days, "The Big 12 is open for business."
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> "Obviously, going out west is where I would like to go,
entering that fourth time zone," Yormark said Wednesday.
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> He added of the Big 12's wish list: "A program that has
national recognition, one that competes at the highest level in
basketball and football, stands for the right things, is a good
cultural fit."
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#Post#: 36799--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: September 10, 2022, 12:52 pm
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The Big 12 is already in three timezones, so that rules out
Utah, Colorado and the Arizona schools (though I'm sure they'd
take them too if they came along)
I'd wager they're going after Oregon, Washington, and maybe some
of the Cali left behinds like Cal or even San Diego State.
#Post#: 37141--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: October 19, 2022, 10:31 am
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After JMU’s successful transition from CAA to Sun Belt,
Delaware is now looking at FBS. Rumors are MAC would be the
likely landing spot. We have been in CAA football for almost a
decade. If we were just a little bit successful, I think MAC
would have invited us as well. Us along with Delaware, may be
UMASS, would have created a nice and logical eastern expansion.
May be Albany or Towson would have been the 14th to round up the
number. May be Temple would join after being tired of AAC
travel. May be UD and SB as full members, and UMASS and UCONN
football only. We would have Buffalo as SUNY rivalry. So many
scenarios. But I think we have failed to make us look attractive
on field.
But then again you can always throw out logic in conference
realignment. Georgia State went 1-7 in one year of CAA before
joining Sun Belt.
#Post#: 37142--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: October 19, 2022, 11:37 am
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Speculate all you want about SB in FBS. Ain’t gonna happen, not
with a Long Island fan base.
#Post#: 37143--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: October 19, 2022, 11:56 am
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its really the only discussion worth having. sure, winning,
profile, and stadium capacity are all parts of the FBS jump.
but ultimately, its really about $$$. tickets, concessions,
streaming deals, etc.
we cant get our students to stay on campus, let alone watch a
game.
and that's when we are winning.
if you take as example... LSU, with over 110k seats and 30k
students, they likely have over 10k students at a game. that's
nearly our total capacity. what do we get, 500 max on a good
day?
#Post#: 37144--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Accelerator
Date: October 19, 2022, 12:20 pm
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Who even gets the primary blame for Stony Brook students sucking
ass? Heilbron, for being the leader of athletic dept that did
nothing to engage them? Stanley/McInnis, for not attracting a
better audience to the school? The students themselves, for
being antisocial weirdos? Idk, I'm angry at them all. We should
NOT be in this position 10 years later.
#Post#: 37154--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: October 20, 2022, 12:05 am
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--- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
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> After JMU’s successful transition from CAA to Sun Belt,
Delaware is now looking at FBS. Rumors are MAC would be the
likely landing spot. We have been in CAA football for almost a
decade. If we were just a little bit successful, I think MAC
would have invited us as well. Us along with Delaware, may be
UMASS, would have created a nice and logical eastern expansion.
May be Albany or Towson would have been the 14th to round up the
number. May be Temple would join after being tired of AAC
travel. May be UD and SB as full members, and UMASS and UCONN
football only. We would have Buffalo as SUNY rivalry. So many
scenarios. But I think we have failed to make us look attractive
on field.
>
> But then again you can always throw out logic in conference
realignment. Georgia State went 1-7 in one year of CAA before
joining Sun Belt.
>
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It was speculated back in the 2013ish(almost 10 years now,
wow!!) timeframe that if UMass joined the MAC as a full member
we'd be #14. That was back then though. Since then Fiore got
rightfully booted for his BS, but Heilbron has had the whole
athletic department treading water and football has been
trending downard with 2017-18 being the lone exceptions. I'd
understand why Delaware would want to move now that JMU is gone
to the Sun Belt. Kennessaw State also announced a move to CUSA
recently. Seems like a lot of schools are predictably trying to
land in FBS homes ahead of the new CFP contract, especially
since despite the SEC and Big Ten moves, a 12 team playoff with
six conference champs is still on the table. Opening the door
for a G5/mid-major team to make it each year.
Not too many schools excite me that much in the MAC other than
Buffalo, but if Delaware tagged along and we were better
positioned it could be a good move. With some of the schools the
CAA added I'm not sure it's really any better from a fan
interest perspective at this point. If by some miracle Heilbron
is fielding calls from the MAC he should listen and angle to get
us in there. It would single handedly save his tenure as our AD.
#Post#: 37155--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: October 20, 2022, 8:45 am
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--- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
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> Who even gets the primary blame for Stony Brook students
sucking ass? Heilbron, for being the leader of athletic dept
that did nothing to engage them? Stanley/McInnis, for not
attracting a better audience to the school? The students
themselves, for being antisocial weirdos? Idk, I'm angry at them
all. We should NOT be in this position 10 years later.
>
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i doubt this is the fault of the athletic dept.... it's a
cultural norm at SBU, and also, an infrastructure problem- bad
campus design, mixing of freshmen with seniors, train runs
through campus, draws heavily off NYC/LI, rigorous academics,
etc.
SBU wasnt always like this. just last week i met an alum from
the 70s. and he confirmed the legends we always hear- that
there were bars in the basement of the dorms.
so i guess it goes all the way to the top. good on mcinnis for
even acknowledging it. i dont recall kenney ever even thinking
about it.
in other news- it's so interesting to see the range of opinions
here- some think football should fold, drop back to Division
III, and others think FBS! discuss, i am enjoying this...
#Post#: 37157--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: October 20, 2022, 8:50 am
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I’m a bball first, then fb fan. A10 was always my wish. But
seems like that would remain a wish. But football drives the
athletics landscape. And the powers at college football want to
divide FBS into haves and have nots. FCS will essentially move
down to third in food chain from second now. If there’s any
opportunity to get to that second tier, ie bottom of fbs, I
think we should do that. Cause otherwise it would eventually
affect bball too.
But on the other hand I really do prefer CAA basketball over MAC
basketball….even after the recent additions/dilution of CAA
basketball quality.
So it’s going to be tricky to navigate the college athletics
landscape next few years. I just wish we were more proactive and
put ourselves in a better position to take any opportunity comes
our way. But I am worried we will be left behind at the bottom
of food chain.
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