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#Post#: 36559--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: July 15, 2022, 6:02 pm
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what a mess
#Post#: 36570--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: July 19, 2022, 1:05 am
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
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> I feel exactly the same way as you. SBU is light years away
from ever winning an FCS championship, or ever going FBS. They
decided to take the low ride, back seat, with football.
>
--- End Quote ---
After all this realignment with the SEC/Big Ten shakes out,
whatever is left of the G5 won't be that far above the FCS.
Depending on how far the SEC/BIG try to push the NFL model we
may see the G5 and the top of the FCS form their own
sub-division that still resembles traditional college football.
Certainly SBU should get a seat at the table in that, as should
the more competitive and academically desirable FCS schools.
Delaware, North Dakota State, Montana, etc should all be in on
that.
--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
>
> if youre into this type of chatter... and this is a little
stale:
HTML https://twitter.com/Braden_Keith/status/1545054860478799873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1545054860478799873%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fproduction-cms.il-internal.com%2Fdash%2Farticle%2Fadd
>
> [quote]SOURCE: North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, and
Virginia are all negotiating to join the SEC. ESPN is trying to
void their TV deal with the ACC.
>
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
ESPN is trying to kill the ACC, but those schools wouldn't align
that way I don't think. Virginia for one would much rather be in
the Big Ten as would UNC most likely. Clemson and FSU I see
being SEC bound. Virginia Tech is the much better fit for the
SEC
#Post#: 36572--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: July 19, 2022, 7:02 am
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excellent point on realignment.
in fact, id argue that with SB football being somewhat stagnant,
a shakeup (any shakeup) can only spell good things for us.
status quo isnt working, according to most here...
#Post#: 36591--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: July 24, 2022, 3:08 am
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
>
> excellent point on realignment.
>
> in fact, id argue that with SB football being somewhat
stagnant, a shakeup (any shakeup) can only spell good things for
us. status quo isnt working, according to most here...
>
--- End Quote ---
We were here trying to move up to FBS, but with what the SEC and
Big Ten are doing, FBS might move to us ;D
#Post#: 36592--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Redwyn
Date: July 24, 2022, 10:29 pm
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--- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
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> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=368.msg36572#msg36572 date=1658232155]
> excellent point on realignment.
>
> in fact, id argue that with SB football being somewhat
stagnant, a shakeup (any shakeup) can only spell good things for
us. status quo isnt working, according to most here...
>
--- End Quote ---
We were here trying to move up to FBS, but with what the SEC and
Big Ten are doing, FBS might move to us ;D
[/quote]
I'll say it again and I'll keep saying it until someone sees the
logic: the end-ideal for SBU in football is a grouping of large
northeastern/midatlantic publics, likely an amalgam of
low-tier/independent FBS and high level FCS. I say football
specifically because I suspect that football conferences outside
the highest tier will be different between football and MBB.
An ideal would look like:
UConn (def feasible given its independent/death bed status)
UMass (Indy, never was good, likely never will be)
Buffalo (The only team with marginal success who would be taking
a step back here, but probably not a big enough one to justify
staying with Ohio/Michigan vs. this)
Stony Brook
Delaware
Albany
Towson
New Hampshire
Maine
Rhode Island
Some diversity in football commitment, but all places people
have heard of. That division stays alive, in my opinion.
#Post#: 36593--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: July 25, 2022, 8:06 am
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its a good point. and i agree.
playing wagner and fordham (we lost that one didnt we) and
colgate and bryant and monmouth isnt going to get us anywhere.
on the private side, though, i'd like to see nova on the
schedule, that's a good game for us.
#Post#: 36595--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: July 25, 2022, 10:39 am
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--- Quote from: Redwyn link ---
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> [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg36591#msg36591
date=1658650118]
> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=368.msg36572#msg36572 date=1658232155]
> excellent point on realignment.
>
> in fact, id argue that with SB football being somewhat
stagnant, a shakeup (any shakeup) can only spell good things for
us. status quo isnt working, according to most here...
>
--- End Quote ---
We were here trying to move up to FBS, but with what the SEC and
Big Ten are doing, FBS might move to us ;D
[/quote]
I'll say it again and I'll keep saying it until someone sees the
logic: the end-ideal for SBU in football is a grouping of large
northeastern/midatlantic publics, likely an amalgam of
low-tier/independent FBS and high level FCS. I say football
specifically because I suspect that football conferences outside
the highest tier will be different between football and MBB.
An ideal would look like:
UConn (def feasible given its independent/death bed status)
UMass (Indy, never was good, likely never will be)
Buffalo (The only team with marginal success who would be taking
a step back here, but probably not a big enough one to justify
staying with Ohio/Michigan vs. this)
Stony Brook
Delaware
Albany
Towson
New Hampshire
Maine
Rhode Island
Some diversity in football commitment, but all places people
have heard of. That division stays alive, in my opinion.
[/quote]
100% agree.
I like the lineup
I would prob take Temple in as opposed to Towson
#Post#: 36619--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: August 2, 2022, 10:52 am
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--- Quote from: Redwyn link ---
>
> [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg36591#msg36591
date=1658650118]
> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=368.msg36572#msg36572 date=1658232155]
> excellent point on realignment.
>
> in fact, id argue that with SB football being somewhat
stagnant, a shakeup (any shakeup) can only spell good things for
us. status quo isnt working, according to most here...
>
--- End Quote ---
We were here trying to move up to FBS, but with what the SEC and
Big Ten are doing, FBS might move to us ;D
[/quote]
I'll say it again and I'll keep saying it until someone sees the
logic: the end-ideal for SBU in football is a grouping of large
northeastern/midatlantic publics, likely an amalgam of
low-tier/independent FBS and high level FCS. I say football
specifically because I suspect that football conferences outside
the highest tier will be different between football and MBB.
An ideal would look like:
UConn (def feasible given its independent/death bed status)
UMass (Indy, never was good, likely never will be)
Buffalo (The only team with marginal success who would be taking
a step back here, but probably not a big enough one to justify
staying with Ohio/Michigan vs. this)
Stony Brook
Delaware
Albany
Towson
New Hampshire
Maine
Rhode Island
Some diversity in football commitment, but all places people
have heard of. That division stays alive, in my opinion.
[/quote]
I'd be all for this. Regional conference, reasonable travel,
decent recruiting footprint with Towson in the league, and
whether this league is in the new FBS or FCS it's best team
could go on a run every once in a while. Either in a playoff or
a major bowl.
#Post#: 36714--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: TPomeza3
Date: September 1, 2022, 3:28 am
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just in general i saw texas and oklahoma will be added to SEC so
interesting to see what knock on effect is. will b10 get bigger
to create 2 super conferences and what will happen lower down.
#Post#: 36740--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: September 2, 2022, 1:06 am
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--- Quote from: TPomeza3 link ---
>
> just in general i saw texas and oklahoma will be added to SEC
so interesting to see what knock on effect is. will b10 get
bigger to create 2 super conferences and what will happen lower
down.
>
--- End Quote ---
Ancient News. USC and UCLA are moving to the Big Ten in
response.
I see both of those leagues going to at least 20 in the near
future and the ACC getting gutted/destroyed from it. The Pac-12
also. We'd have a defacto power 2 with the Big 12 sticking
around as a clear third getting some kind of access. Whatever is
left of the Mountain West/New Pac-12, AAC, Sun Belt, CUSA, etc
will be not much better than the top of the FCS and may be
equally irrelevant depending on how they handle playoff and
media access.
The sport is nothing like it once was.
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