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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: July 7, 2022, 12:23 am
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HTML https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/acc-pac-12-discussing-partnership-in-wake-of-big-ten-bonanza/
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Bunch of nothing. The next move lies in the hands of Colorado,
Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State. If they go to the Big 12 that
conference gets cemented as the third best in the pecking order
and then Washington, Oregon, Stanford, etc. are waiting on the
clock for what the Big Ten and Notre Dame are going to do (If ND
joins a conference they want to join the B1G even though they're
contracted to join the ACC). Washington and Oregon fans hope
that Notre Dame agrees to join and then Stanford comes along as
a 20 team Big Ten.
If those four schools remain in the Pac-12, then I think the
Pac-12 simply becomes a Pac-10 for a few more years while the
other major moves in the sport happen and these things get
negotiated behind the scenes. I personally think those four
schools should move to the Big 12 now and secure their futures
rather than remain in a dying Pac-12. That conference is on
borrowed time. If they move now they could potentially force the
issue for Washington and Oregon and make them come to the Big 12
with them for an 18 team Big 12. They either come along or
remain in a Pac-6 while they wait for the Big Ten to figure out
what they're doing.
No alliance of any kind will happen. I also see just about no
scenario where Washington State and Oregon State remain in power
conferences after this. Is what it is, but this is realignment.
Many think schools like Boston College, Wake Forest, Syracuse,
etc could be on the outside looking in as well when this all
shakes out .
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: July 7, 2022, 9:00 am
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I want this whole thing to collapse at this point. So tired of
big-time college sports
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: July 7, 2022, 9:57 am
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Not sure if it’s gonna collapse but definitely there will be a
huge change coming. The gap between haves and have-nots is
reaching a breaking point. Similar to last FBS/FCs split, I
think there will be another split coming. I’m pretty sure one of
Pac12 or ACC will cease to exist or will be completely
decimated. My hope is from this chaos, there will be a new
north-east fbs conference. May be the left overs from ACC like
Cuse and BC… or perhaps Temple tired of flying to Texas for
minimal media money etc. come to senses and create something
local, which will likely be in the second tier of fbs with left
overs from power5s and g5s. And if they do, big if I know, they
will need more teams and we should be ready. Last decade, since
joining CAA football, was a complete waste. We haven’t stood out
as a fcs force. Hopefully next decade we stand out as one of the
best fcs of north east… making us desirable. Even if there’s no
northeast fbs conference, can’t we at least have a winning
program?!
#Post#: 36540--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Accelerator
Date: July 7, 2022, 10:43 am
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This split has officially killed my interest in Stony Brook from
here on out. Joining the CAA means nothing when it's still FCS
and has no foreseeable path to the top with the top closing in.
It's such a depressing fall. Ten years ago when I was there it
felt like we were really building something and that the sky was
the limit. But then Heilbron destroyed our ascent and the rest
of the school began to move in problematic demographic
directions which it hasn't changed from yet. Everyone said ten
years ago that we'd be FBS in ten years.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: July 7, 2022, 12:20 pm
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
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> I want this whole thing to collapse at this point. So tired of
big-time college sports
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agreed
#Post#: 36543--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: July 7, 2022, 2:37 pm
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--- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
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> This split has officially killed my interest in Stony Brook
from here on out. Joining the CAA means nothing when it's still
FCS and has no foreseeable path to the top with the top closing
in.
>
> It's such a depressing fall. Ten years ago when I was there it
felt like we were really building something and that the sky was
the limit. But then Heilbron destroyed our ascent and the rest
of the school began to move in problematic demographic
directions which it hasn't changed from yet. Everyone said ten
years ago that we'd be FBS in ten years.
>
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You have to take Stony Brook FB as is. Enjoy the wins and hope
they do the best they can at the level they are at.
I know many of us became fans with the hopes that SBU can
someday play FBS football. But the reality is that big time
football can only be played by the top 60 schools or so of the
FBS anyway. The rest of the FBS is suffering from the same
apathy FCS suffers. Most FBS programs are bleeding money and
fans. The problem with the current NCAA landscape is that fans
are losing interest for the school sports team now that
traditions, rivalries, fan-bases are being thrown out the window
for the hopes of earning more TV revenue. These greedy schools
don't realize that the fabric that holds everything together is
traditions/rivalries/fanbases/matchups. When you put all that
aside for money it makes plenty of sense that college football
attendance is rapidly declining overall.
To resolve this what we need is a new association based on a
more egalitarian principles: (1) small regional conferences (7
member schools) with a guaranteed auto-bid and no at-large bids
to a national playoff and (2) shared-revenue model so that fans
of all schools can feel they have a realistic shot at a national
championship, increase interests, and level the playing field
#Post#: 36544--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: July 7, 2022, 3:03 pm
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
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> [quote author=Accelerator link=topic=368.msg36540#msg36540
date=1657208582]
> This split has officially killed my interest in Stony Brook
from here on out. Joining the CAA means nothing when it's still
FCS and has no foreseeable path to the top with the top closing
in.
>
> It's such a depressing fall. Ten years ago when I was there it
felt like we were really building something and that the sky was
the limit. But then Heilbron destroyed our ascent and the rest
of the school began to move in problematic demographic
directions which it hasn't changed from yet. Everyone said ten
years ago that we'd be FBS in ten years.
>
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You have to take Stony Brook FB as is. Enjoy the wins and hope
they do the best they can at the level they are at.
I know many of us became fans with the hopes that SBU can
someday play FBS football. But the reality is that big time
football can only be played by the top 60 schools or so of the
FBS anyway. The rest of the FBS is suffering from the same
apathy FCS suffers. Most FBS programs are bleeding money and
fans. The problem with the current NCAA landscape is that fans
are losing interest for the school sports team now that
traditions, rivalries, fan-bases are being thrown out the window
for the hopes of earning more TV revenue. These greedy schools
don't realize that the fabric that holds everything together is
traditions/rivalries/fanbases/matchups. When you put all that
aside for money it makes plenty of sense that college football
attendance is rapidly declining overall.
To resolve this what we need is a new association based on a
more egalitarian principles: (1) small regional conferences (7
member schools) with a guaranteed auto-bid and no at-large bids
to a national playoff and (2) shared-revenue model so that fans
of all schools can feel they have a realistic shot at a national
championship, increase interests, and level the playing field
[/quote]
really well put.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: July 8, 2022, 6:31 am
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--- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
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> This split has officially killed my interest in Stony Brook
from here on out. Joining the CAA means nothing when it's still
FCS and has no foreseeable path to the top with the top closing
in.
>
> It's such a depressing fall. Ten years ago when I was there it
felt like we were really building something and that the sky was
the limit. But then Heilbron destroyed our ascent and the rest
of the school began to move in problematic demographic
directions which it hasn't changed from yet. Everyone said ten
years ago that we'd be FBS in ten years.
>
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I feel exactly the same way as you. SBU is light years away from
ever winning an FCS championship, or ever going FBS. They
decided to take the low ride, back seat, with football.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: July 15, 2022, 11:09 am
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if youre into this type of chatter... and this is a little
stale:
HTML https://twitter.com/Braden_Keith/status/1545054860478799873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1545054860478799873%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fproduction-cms.il-internal.com%2Fdash%2Farticle%2Fadd
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> SOURCE: North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, and Virginia
are all negotiating to join the SEC. ESPN is trying to void
their TV deal with the ACC.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: July 15, 2022, 12:43 pm
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> if youre into this type of chatter... and this is a little
stale:
HTML https://twitter.com/Braden_Keith/status/1545054860478799873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1545054860478799873%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fproduction-cms.il-internal.com%2Fdash%2Farticle%2Fadd
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> [quote]SOURCE: North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, and
Virginia are all negotiating to join the SEC. ESPN is trying to
void their TV deal with the ACC.
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Crazy if happens. SEC will be a monster conference. B1G will
definitely retaliate with further expansion. There’s going to be
two super conferences.
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