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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: November 11, 2021, 3:57 am
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--- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
>
> I don’t see why Heilbron would get extended. He’s done nothing
right. What justification would the powers that be have for
keeping him? His tenure has been a disastrous failure.
>
--- End Quote ---
Who's going to fire SH, Our new president?? That's a joke. it is
easier to just keep him on as AD as opposed to trying to do a
national search and having to start over again.
SH and coach Chucky isn't going anywhere for a very long time..
#Post#: 34421--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: November 11, 2021, 4:27 am
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--- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
>
> I think that’s good? Lol not sure. But it keeps the eastward
expansion idea open. I have been reading a lot of realignment
stuff last couple of weeks. My hope for A10 is perhaps wishful
thinking. Even if A10 loses members, they are unlikely to add
anyone. It’s already become a 2 bid league. Not the old 4/5 bids
A10 anymore. And Stony Brook won’t help with at-large bid.
>
> So I have been thinking that then perhaps after A10, MAC is
the best idea. I will never advocate CUSA- flying to El Paso,
Las Cruces, Miami, Louisiana, Mississippi makes no sense. It
would be a big mistake, that would drag the AD down financially
to bankruptcy. We don’t have sugar-daddy like Coastal Carolina.
>
> Perhaps Stony Brook with UMASS or Delaware, can give MAC an
eastern presence in a population heavy region. MAC will be 14
members with SBU and UMASS/UD. They can continue East/west
divisions. MAC basketball is not as good as A10, but is not as
bad as Sunbelt either. Besides perhaps Buffalo and Stony Brook
will start something like rivalry? Lol.
>
> [attachimg=1]
>
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I've been saying this for years. If, and a huge if SB ever gets
an invite to a better conference. The MAC makes the most sense.
But, SB's two major sports teams have been regressing the last 5
years, so I cant see the MAC wanting a school that places the
two biggest fan draw at zero priority.
#Post#: 34425--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: November 11, 2021, 8:11 am
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--- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
>
> UMASS will never leave the A10 for the MAC, so the MAC will
stay put for now and for the foreseeable future. CUSA should
stabilize at 9, and without ESPN bankrolling any additions will
probably add one more school and then stop.
>
> [quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=368.msg34410#msg34410
date=1636591099]
> Here is a link to conference realignment talks... crazy,
entertaining, popcorn stuff lol
>
>
HTML https://csnbbs.com/forum-637.html
>
--- End Quote ---
I've lurked that forum for a good five six years now. Always
hilarious. Especially that one guy who lists every NCAA school
as an FBS candidate ;D
[/quote]
Legendary DavidSt ;D We also got our own AE legend MaineJeff
:D
These and a few more are known as realignmentologists around the
boards/forums
#Post#: 34426--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 11, 2021, 8:23 am
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=368.msg34408#msg34408
date=1636584934]
> I think that’s good? Lol not sure. But it keeps the eastward
expansion idea open. I have been reading a lot of realignment
stuff last couple of weeks. My hope for A10 is perhaps wishful
thinking. Even if A10 loses members, they are unlikely to add
anyone. It’s already become a 2 bid league. Not the old 4/5 bids
A10 anymore. And Stony Brook won’t help with at-large bid.
>
> So I have been thinking that then perhaps after A10, MAC is
the best idea. I will never advocate CUSA- flying to El Paso,
Las Cruces, Miami, Louisiana, Mississippi makes no sense. It
would be a big mistake, that would drag the AD down financially
to bankruptcy. We don’t have sugar-daddy like Coastal Carolina.
>
> Perhaps Stony Brook with UMASS or Delaware, can give MAC an
eastern presence in a population heavy region. MAC will be 14
members with SBU and UMASS/UD. They can continue East/west
divisions. MAC basketball is not as good as A10, but is not as
bad as Sunbelt either. Besides perhaps Buffalo and Stony Brook
will start something like rivalry? Lol.
>
> [attachimg=1]
>
--- End Quote ---
I've been saying this for years. If, and a huge if SB ever gets
an invite to a better conference. The MAC makes the most sense.
But, SB's two major sports teams have been regressing the last 5
years, so I cant see the MAC wanting a school that places the
two biggest fan draw at zero priority.
[/quote]
the more time that goes by the more i warm up to the MAC. i
feel like it's a more natural fit for us, at least as an
academic institution. especially if schools like RU and UD
join.
#Post#: 34427--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: November 11, 2021, 9:56 am
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
>
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg34421#msg34421
date=1636626442]
> [quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=368.msg34408#msg34408
date=1636584934]
> I think that’s good? Lol not sure. But it keeps the eastward
expansion idea open. I have been reading a lot of realignment
stuff last couple of weeks. My hope for A10 is perhaps wishful
thinking. Even if A10 loses members, they are unlikely to add
anyone. It’s already become a 2 bid league. Not the old 4/5 bids
A10 anymore. And Stony Brook won’t help with at-large bid.
>
> So I have been thinking that then perhaps after A10, MAC is
the best idea. I will never advocate CUSA- flying to El Paso,
Las Cruces, Miami, Louisiana, Mississippi makes no sense. It
would be a big mistake, that would drag the AD down financially
to bankruptcy. We don’t have sugar-daddy like Coastal Carolina.
>
> Perhaps Stony Brook with UMASS or Delaware, can give MAC an
eastern presence in a population heavy region. MAC will be 14
members with SBU and UMASS/UD. They can continue East/west
divisions. MAC basketball is not as good as A10, but is not as
bad as Sunbelt either. Besides perhaps Buffalo and Stony Brook
will start something like rivalry? Lol.
>
> [attachimg=1]
>
--- End Quote ---
I've been saying this for years. If, and a huge if SB ever gets
an invite to a better conference. The MAC makes the most sense.
But, SB's two major sports teams have been regressing the last 5
years, so I cant see the MAC wanting a school that places the
two biggest fan draw at zero priority.
[/quote]
the more time that goes by the more i warm up to the MAC. i
feel like it's a more natural fit for us, at least as an
academic institution. especially if schools like RU and UD
join.
[/quote]
If the MAC expands with a full on eastern wing I could grow to
like the conference, but save for a few years here or there when
a member or two is good at a particular sport, most of the teams
don't interest me. Toledo and NIU would be interesting for
football. Ohio would be interesting most years. Buffalo would be
the only opponent I'd be hyped up for every time we played them,
but outside of that nobody in the MAC as currently constituted
really excites me. An Eastern expansion would help that somewhat
if they added say us and Umass together, but I'd still prefer an
east coast/mid-Atlantic/southern league that more or less fits
in the current CAA footprint. That would be ideal.
However, with that being said, I'd still rather play Ball State,
Akron, Kent, etc. over being stuck in the FCS. The MAC would be
a significant step up in basketball too which would be nice.
Still a one-bid league, but maybe occasionally could squeeze a
second team in there.
#Post#: 34428--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 11, 2021, 10:16 am
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pretty much exactly what i was thinking, thanks VA. those
football games are often on ESPN, and we could draw recruits
from western PA, Ohio, WV, these are football strongholds.
basketball of course, yes, is not as good, but would raise the
profile.
#Post#: 34429--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: guest419
Date: November 11, 2021, 5:15 pm
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Where is the money coming from to make the move to one of these
FBS conferences? And where will the money come from to stay
there. Have you noticed that is an issue at SB?
#Post#: 34430--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Accelerator
Date: November 11, 2021, 6:22 pm
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=Accelerator link=topic=368.msg34416#msg34416
date=1636604967]
> I don’t see why Heilbron would get extended. He’s done nothing
right. What justification would the powers that be have for
keeping him? His tenure has been a disastrous failure.
>
--- End Quote ---
Who's going to fire SH, Our new president?? That's a joke. it is
easier to just keep him on as AD as opposed to trying to do a
national search and having to start over again.
SH and coach Chucky isn't going anywhere for a very long time..
[/quote]
The "national search" is necessary to get rid of a guy who made
bad football, basketball contract decisions, can't raise money
and has made no effort to engage the student body. It would be
harder to keep things the way they are while massively inferior
schools pass us by.
#Post#: 34431--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: November 12, 2021, 5:08 am
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--- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
>
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg34420#msg34420
date=1636624627]
> [quote author=Accelerator link=topic=368.msg34416#msg34416
date=1636604967]
> I don’t see why Heilbron would get extended. He’s done nothing
right. What justification would the powers that be have for
keeping him? His tenure has been a disastrous failure.
>
--- End Quote ---
Who's going to fire SH, Our new president?? That's a joke. it is
easier to just keep him on as AD as opposed to trying to do a
national search and having to start over again.
SH and coach Chucky isn't going anywhere for a very long time..
[/quote]
The "national search" is necessary to get rid of a guy who made
bad football, basketball contract decisions, can't raise money
and has made no effort to engage the student body. It would be
harder to keep things the way they are while massively inferior
schools pass us by.
[/quote]
I agree, but nothing is going to happen or change . The only
times this school will make a drastic move is when something
negative happens that may tarnish the school's reputation. ie;
AD Fiore, Baseball HC, Matt Shank, Hedge fund, Dubin. But to
fire and bring in new coaches or AD to improve the schools
athletic dept. forget it..
#Post#: 34432--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: November 12, 2021, 9:46 am
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=Accelerator link=topic=368.msg34430#msg34430
date=1636676563]
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg34420#msg34420
date=1636624627]
> [quote author=Accelerator link=topic=368.msg34416#msg34416
date=1636604967]
> I don’t see why Heilbron would get extended. He’s done nothing
right. What justification would the powers that be have for
keeping him? His tenure has been a disastrous failure.
>
--- End Quote ---
Who's going to fire SH, Our new president?? That's a joke. it is
easier to just keep him on as AD as opposed to trying to do a
national search and having to start over again.
SH and coach Chucky isn't going anywhere for a very long time..
[/quote]
The "national search" is necessary to get rid of a guy who made
bad football, basketball contract decisions, can't raise money
and has made no effort to engage the student body. It would be
harder to keep things the way they are while massively inferior
schools pass us by.
[/quote]
I agree, but nothing is going to happen or change . The only
times this school will make a drastic move is when something
negative happens that may tarnish the school's reputation. ie;
AD Fiore, Baseball HC, Matt Shank, Hedge fund, Dubin. But to
fire and bring in new coaches or AD to improve the schools
athletic dept. forget it..
[/quote]
This is the first I heard of Senk getting suspended for 9 games.
I know how the baseball season ended horribly, but do you know
what Senk did to get 9 games?
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