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#Post#: 17880--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Seawolf97 Date: February 16, 2017, 7:15 pm
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This is big for Liberty and for us. Don't know how our finances
are probably not great but it is something to work for. I
don't know what goes in the IVY Tower but I'm sure this will be
discussed . Still would like the MAC or AAC as a conference
someday .
#Post#: 17882--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Hammertime Date: February 16, 2017, 8:48 pm
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[quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=368.msg17880#msg17880
date=1487294147]
This is big for Liberty and for us. Don't know how our finances
are probably not great but it is something to work for. I
don't know what goes in the IVY Tower but I'm sure this will be
discussed . Still would like the MAC or AAC as a conference
someday .
[/quote]
I was once a big time advocate for a move up to FBS, but maybe
we should start off with a winning year, first. Ever since the
move from the Big South to the CAA, SB cant gain any traction.
Hopefully with the addition of the interior work out facility SB
can recruit better players and a real quarterback, then we can
talk about an FBS move. I also think they have the money to do
it, just not the talent, yet!!!!!!
#Post#: 17884--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: February 16, 2017, 10:33 pm
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[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg17882#msg17882
date=1487299693]
[quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=368.msg17880#msg17880
date=1487294147]
This is big for Liberty and for us. Don't know how our finances
are probably not great but it is something to work for. I
don't know what goes in the IVY Tower but I'm sure this will be
discussed . Still would like the MAC or AAC as a conference
someday .
[/quote]
I was once a big time advocate for a move up to FBS, but maybe
we should start off with a winning year, first. Ever since the
move from the Big South to the CAA, SB cant gain any traction.
Hopefully with the addition of the interior work out facility SB
can recruit better players and a real quarterback, then we can
talk about an FBS move. I also think they have the money to do
it, just not the talent, yet!!!!!!
[/quote]
I too would like to see some FCS success before a move up in a
similar vein to what JMU accomplished this year before a move
up, but that's not a requirement for me. We shouldn't move
tomorrow, but it would be in our best interest to be FBS within
the next 6-7 years before the next CFP contract gets negotiated
as we'd want to be a part of that. Ideally as part of a regional
conference of peer institutions.
#Post#: 17886--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Hammertime Date: February 17, 2017, 4:26 am
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg17884#msg17884
date=1487305986]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg17882#msg17882
date=1487299693]
[quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=368.msg17880#msg17880
date=1487294147]
This is big for Liberty and for us. Don't know how our finances
are probably not great but it is something to work for. I
don't know what goes in the IVY Tower but I'm sure this will be
discussed . Still would like the MAC or AAC as a conference
someday .
[/quote]
I was once a big time advocate for a move up to FBS, but maybe
we should start off with a winning year, first. Ever since the
move from the Big South to the CAA, SB cant gain any traction.
Hopefully with the addition of the interior work out facility SB
can recruit better players and a real quarterback, then we can
talk about an FBS move. I also think they have the money to do
it, just not the talent, yet!!!!!!
[/quote]
I too would like to see some FCS success before a move up in a
similar vein to what JMU accomplished this year before a move
up, but that's not a requirement for me. We shouldn't move
tomorrow, but it would be in our best interest to be FBS within
the next 6-7 years before the next CFP contract gets negotiated
as we'd want to be a part of that. Ideally as part of a regional
conference of peer institutions.
[/quote]
Keep in mind. SB would have to expand that stadium to a NCAA
min, 15,000 seats, and I am certain they have to guarantee a min
of 15K tickets to sell otherwise the university makes up the
difference. UMASS is going through that pain since their move up
from the FCS.. A lot to consider when a program makes the leap..
#Post#: 17888--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: February 17, 2017, 9:04 am
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Coastal got the call from the Sun Belt to move up when their
stadium was barely bigger than ours and was well below the NCAA
minimum. I'm not saying this is something we should do straight
away, but I'm glad it's an option. I think our biggest challenge
right now is simply filling the stadium. I'd love FBS, but I
have no interest in being Eastern Michigan playing in a 30k seat
stadium that only has 4k show up every week. Priore hasn't got
it done in the CAA and with Hemphill leaving I think we could go
from a five win team yearly to a two or three win team which
would kill attendance even more. SH should have fired Priore and
made Hemphill the head coach, but that's another topic....
If we could get homecoming crowds on a weekly basis, we'll be in
good shape for a move up when the time comes. I look at
independence as an avenue to forming a regional FBS conference
with peer institutions. We wouldn't be like BYU and try to do it
forever obviously. This waiver that the NCAA granted opens the
door for much of the current CAA football teams to reclassify as
independents during the transition period and then come together
as an FBS conference one the transition period is over.
#Post#: 17889--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Seawolf97 Date: February 17, 2017, 9:21 am
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I like our options going forward now that Liberty has kind of
led the way. Finances and crowd support are big as is improving
our talent base on the field . Hopefully in 5-7 years we will
see movement with our expanded stadium and the indoor facility
we are in good shape.
#Post#: 17891--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: iBOsbu Date: February 17, 2017, 10:29 am
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This is a big news for northeast FCS footprint. As VA_Seawolf
mentioned.. if the "you must be invited by an existing FBS
conference" clause is not important anymore, I can see more FCS
programs going to FBS sooner before NCAA changes mind about the
clause. JMU and Delaware definitely have FBS aspiration.
The dream scenario for Stony Brook would be if JMU and Delaware
transit and along with independent UMASS, Army and couple of
lost in AAC northeast schools like UCONN and Temple start
playing together. Along with those 6 schools, they will need 2
or 3 more football programs for regular schedule. I can see
northeast schools like Stony Brook, Albany, Towson being
considered for potential add.
We just have to make sure when the opportunity comes, we are at
the front of these potential candidates as The indisputable
candidate. Which means we need to turn into a CAA powerhouse
sooner than later and start filling up the stadium.
#Post#: 17892--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Hammertime Date: February 17, 2017, 12:03 pm
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg17888#msg17888
date=1487343875]
Coastal got the call from the Sun Belt to move up when their
stadium was barely bigger than ours and was well below the NCAA
minimum. I'm not saying this is something we should do straight
away, but I'm glad it's an option. I think our biggest challenge
right now is simply filling the stadium. I'd love FBS, but I
have no interest in being Eastern Michigan playing in a 30k seat
stadium that only has 4k show up every week. Priore hasn't got
it done in the CAA and with Hemphill leaving I think we could go
from a five win team yearly to a two or three win team which
would kill attendance even more. SH should have fired Priore and
made Hemphill the head coach, but that's another topic....
If we could get homecoming crowds on a weekly basis, we'll be in
good shape for a move up when the time comes. I look at
independence as an avenue to forming a regional FBS conference
with peer institutions. We wouldn't be like BYU and try to do it
forever obviously. This waiver that the NCAA granted opens the
door for much of the current CAA football teams to reclassify as
independents during the transition period and then come together
as an FBS conference one the transition period is over.
[/quote]
I agree with you 1000% about coach P. Hemphill most likely would
have stayed with SB had he gotten a shot at HC..Everybody on
this Forum knows how I feel about this topic.. Coach P is stuck
with SB through 2018 and he will not be let go. I think some of
that has to do with $$. SB took a hit with Fiore and they cant
afford to take another hit with P. I also think our AD is
somewhat committed to coach P because P was influential with
making the decision to bring Heilbron on board.. If Fields is
another dud, this team will be lucky to win 3 games this
season.. Coach P should and must go!!!!!
#Post#: 17893--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: February 17, 2017, 1:48 pm
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[quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=368.msg17891#msg17891
date=1487348994]
This is a big news for northeast FCS footprint. As VA_Seawolf
mentioned.. if the "you must be invited by an existing FBS
conference" clause is not important anymore, I can see more FCS
programs going to FBS sooner before NCAA changes mind about the
clause. JMU and Delaware definitely have FBS aspiration.
The dream scenario for Stony Brook would be if JMU and Delaware
transit and along with independent UMASS, Army and couple of
lost in AAC northeast schools like UCONN and Temple start
playing together. Along with those 6 schools, they will need 2
or 3 more football programs for regular schedule. I can see
northeast schools like Stony Brook, Albany, Towson being
considered for potential add.
We just have to make sure when the opportunity comes, we are at
the front of these potential candidates as The indisputable
candidate. Which means we need to turn into a CAA powerhouse
sooner than later and start filling up the stadium.
[/quote]
A conference like one outlined below I think would be really
beneficial for SBU and overall G5 football in the northeast in
general:
Stony Brook
Buffalo
Albany (if they move up, I personally wouldn't mind the
competition)
New Hampshire
UMASS
Delaware
Temple
Marshall
Cincinatti
JMU
ODU
Charlotte
VCU (non-football)
Dayton (non-football)
Six team divisions for football, basketball you could work out.
Others like Towson or possibly the academies could come along.
This league could easily get at least two bids a year to the
NCAA tournament. Some schools lag academically, but would bring
recruiting and good football tradition. Everyone would get a
little bit of everything as far as travel partners and rivalries
go. This league assumes UCONN gets a P5 invite, Cincinnati
doesn't get raided by the remnants of the Big 12/AAC/MWC, and
that VCU, UMASS, and others would leave the A10, but this would
be a very solid, very much regional league without too many
outliers. If others like Charlotte or Marshall want to realign
south, that's their choice, we simply settle at 9-12 members or
invite other schools. The NCAA has a continuity rule for
basketball auto-bids, but we could work that bit out if we got a
full invite with Albany and UNH to the CAA...
#Post#: 17894--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Seawolf97 Date: February 17, 2017, 6:06 pm
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That's a good looking conference hopefully we will see
something like that develop someday.
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