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#Post#: 34080--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: October 19, 2021, 11:05 am
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
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> Let's see if SH and company have what it takes to get SB out
of the America East, and into a more prominent conference for
sports. As far as our football team. They should stay exactly
where they are. In the CAA. I don't see any FBS conference
looking to reach out to SH about going FBS anyways. There is
hope for Lax and some other AE teams to move up.
>
> I hope SH doesn't $uck this once-in-a-lifetime conference
realignment. But he will!!!
>
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I think it's more likely the AE poached from the leftovers in
the CAA after JMU leaves. You could go to 11 with Delaware and
Towson for instance. The league would also likely want a
presence in Boston and go after Northeastern if they'd make the
move.
Hoftstra can go pound sand and move to the MAAC or go D3 for all
I care. I don't really see this allowing SBU to move up on the
basketball side though. Even if the A10 loses St. Louis to the
Big East they still have 13 teams and I don't see a large enough
A10 raid anywhere that would open the door for SBU moving over.
The AE while not great is pretty stable right now as it's all
pretty well regarded public schools that are geographically
sound. On paper this conference should be better than it is, but
we've got the dregs who bring it down athletically.
#Post#: 34081--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: October 19, 2021, 11:17 am
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Given the tepid economic climate, the toll that Covid inflicted
on NCAA sports, and the silence/indifference from McGinnis on
the future of SBU Sports, I can't see Stony Brook going anywhere
in the next 3-5 years. As a matter of fact, I can see them
struggling to maintain the collective footprint that they have
with all of their collegiate sports programs.
It costs a lot of money to move to another conference. The
re-branding effort alone costs big $. Hence, we're not going
anywhere in the near-term, in my opinion.
And if we move in the future, it's probably not worth the
expenditure unless we moved up the chain considerably, like to
the A-10. Just my opinion, of course.
#Post#: 34082--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: October 19, 2021, 11:45 am
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I don’t see us moving anywhere unfortunately. Personally
would love to move to A10, but they probably would like to
shrink rather than expand. And even if they do add anyone, we
won’t be top of the candidates.
Looking at the current realignment, AAC just got a lot worse.
They could have just added two instead of six. UTEP location is
crazy outlier in CUSA. CUSA still has better leftover
institutions than Sunbelt though imo.
It seems currently Stony Brook is happy with the status quo... I
see no ambition in the coaching hiring and renewing pattern. If
that’s the case AE is the best place. CAA is a sinking
ship.
#Post#: 34083--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: October 19, 2021, 12:26 pm
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i think you guys have it right. if you read any of the recent
budget reports / state of the U, money is tight. and SB has
never really, deeply cared about athletics enough to make this
jump during this time.
but, the conversation is fun, so have at it!
#Post#: 34084--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Accelerator
Date: October 19, 2021, 1:58 pm
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There is nothing to be happy with at the status quo right now.
Nothing at all. FCS football and one NCAA Tournament appearance
ever. That's disgusting.
There's no reason to be proud of the America East either. Maine,
New Hampshire, UMass Lowell, Albany, Hartford and UMBC are not
good academic schools to be lumped in with. I want to believe in
the new president, but her silence is deafening. I really don't
want to call for her ouster just a year into her tenure, but
time is running out for me to root for her before we need to
focus getting rid of her too. I will say, though, that the
search committee to find the new president had no prominent
athletic members on it, which concerns me a ton. They put the
Binghamton president on the search committee for Stony Brook's
president instead of an athletic representative. That disgusts
me, and I want to know how the F that was even approved in the
first place!
Again, there are ZERO reasons to be content with the way things
are right now. Zero. Anyone who is happy needs to be shown the
door ASAP, because they are clearly unintelligent and unfit for
their job.
#Post#: 34087--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: October 19, 2021, 6:52 pm
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you guys wanna move up?
Gonna have to have people showing up to games. boycotting and
not donating wont help us get there any sooner.
So... back up your U and commit to helping it get there.
No one is gonna take SBU to an FBS conference when we average 6k
fans at best on saturdays. JMU can do it, so did Liberty and
Coastal Carolina... because their fans are receptive to winning.
When they have good seasons fans quickly respond to it and flood
the gates. meanwhile even when we made the playoffs multiple
years the fans didn't exactly flood the gates. The college
football market just sucks here in the Northeast. Its NOT easy.
#Post#: 34089--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: guest410
Date: October 19, 2021, 7:25 pm
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
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> you guys wanna move up?
>
> Gonna have to have people showing up to games. boycotting and
not donating wont help us get there any sooner.
>
> So... back up your U and commit to helping it get there.
>
> No one is gonna take SBU to an FBS conference when we average
6k fans at best on saturdays. JMU can do it, so did Liberty and
Coastal Carolina... because their fans are receptive to winning.
When they have good seasons fans quickly respond to it and flood
the gates. meanwhile even when we made the playoffs multiple
years the fans didn't exactly flood the gates. The college
football market just sucks here in the Northeast. Its NOT easy.
>
--- End Quote ---
That 6K fan attendance is bullshit. We've discussed it time and
again. Without having attended a single game this year, but
seeing tons of pictures and having friends and colleagues who
went this year, I'd estimate SBU has averaged maybe 3K a game.
Some games clearly have been more, but one has certainly been
much less.
#Post#: 34090--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: October 19, 2021, 9:06 pm
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--- Quote from: AirTurn link ---
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> [quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=368.msg34087#msg34087
date=1634687553]
> you guys wanna move up?
>
> Gonna have to have people showing up to games. boycotting and
not donating wont help us get there any sooner.
>
> So... back up your U and commit to helping it get there.
>
> No one is gonna take SBU to an FBS conference when we average
6k fans at best on saturdays. JMU can do it, so did Liberty and
Coastal Carolina... because their fans are receptive to winning.
When they have good seasons fans quickly respond to it and flood
the gates. meanwhile even when we made the playoffs multiple
years the fans didn't exactly flood the gates. The college
football market just sucks here in the Northeast. Its NOT easy.
>
--- End Quote ---
That 6K fan attendance is bullshit. We've discussed it time and
again. Without having attended a single game this year, but
seeing tons of pictures and having friends and colleagues who
went this year, I'd estimate SBU has averaged maybe 3K a game.
Some games clearly have been more, but one has certainly been
much less.
[/quote]
Exactly. The point is... we don't have the fans to back a move
to a higher conference. Even if we have the money, the U
backing, everything... you can't buy fans! We need fans, atleast
12k of them to be of interest to any FBS conference. Otherwise
we are screwed
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: October 19, 2021, 9:12 pm
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#Post#: 34092--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Accelerator
Date: October 19, 2021, 9:19 pm
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It’s not our job as alumni to show up to games. It’s the
students! When I was in college, so many other students would
tell me, “Aren’t we D3?” Which speaks to a lack of understanding
of us and our opponents created by the treatment of FCS and
America East scheduling. To the community, FCS might as well be
D3, because it’s not the FBS games in mega stadiums that people
associate with true Division I.
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