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#Post#: 33819--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 25, 2021, 9:00 am
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> another piece of the puzzle:
HTML https://bigten.org/news/2021/8/24/general-acc-big-ten-and-pac-12-announce-historic-alliance.aspx
>
> short version- my hot take is that this will even further push
out the other/smaller conferences to do something, and to do it
quickly. because the line between the haves and the havenots
just got brighter. thoughts?
>
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Like what??? Merge the CAA with the BigSouth, Ohio Valley,
etc..??? There is essentially no reason for that to happen
because the big TV money is not interested in these smaller
conferences.
What I do see happening is. less FBS teams playing FCS school
because these Power5 teams can now all play each other, and not
reach out to FCS school for scheduling..That is a negative for
schools that reliy on that money, like SBU and many other
struggling schools.
#Post#: 33820--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: August 25, 2021, 9:55 am
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no, but my point was more that the smaller conferences are in an
even bigger bind, and must act, so that may cause some
displacement, while some try to move up and get their piece.
#Post#: 33887--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: September 10, 2021, 10:58 am
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The Big 12 is officially expanding with Cincinnati, Houston,
BYU, and UCF.
HTML https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx<br
/>
This means other G5 leagues like the AAC and Sun Belt will be
making some moves, which means CUSA will make some moves as
well, which in all likelihood will open the door for a few FCS
moveups. I fully expect JMU to be FBS and out of the CAA by
2025. Their president is a goddamn idiot if they're still in the
CAA at that point.
Can SBU move up from this? Highly unlikely unless a conference
takes a gamble on our market and academics (which seem to matter
less now). We would have had a real chance had all of this
happened five years ago, but now with our current leadership I
don't see us going anywhere. McGinniss doesn't seem to be much
of a sports person despite coming from Texas, and the athletic
leadership has clearly proven themselves to be inept. In any
case, keep an eye on the situation and hope this opens a spot
for SBU to improve their conference affiliation somewhere.
#Post#: 33889--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: September 10, 2021, 3:13 pm
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--- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
>
> The Big 12 is officially expanding with Cincinnati, Houston,
BYU, and UCF.
>
>
HTML https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx
>
> This means other G5 leagues like the AAC and Sun Belt will be
making some moves, which means CUSA will make some moves as
well, which in all likelihood will open the door for a few FCS
moveups. I fully expect JMU to be FBS and out of the CAA by
2025. Their president is a goddamn idiot if they're still in the
CAA at that point.
>
> Can SBU move up from this? Highly unlikely unless a conference
takes a gamble on our market and academics (which seem to matter
less now). We would have had a real chance had all of this
happened five years ago, but now with our current leadership I
don't see us going anywhere. McGinniss doesn't seem to be much
of a sports person despite coming from Texas, and the athletic
leadership has clearly proven themselves to be inept. In any
case, keep an eye on the situation and hope this opens a spot
for SBU to improve their conference affiliation somewhere.
>
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I'm sorry, but with all due respect. Do you really think SBU
should move up ahead of Delaware, UNH, Maine, Rhode Island, UA
etc??? Hell no. SBU university deserves to stay at the bottom of
the cellar, dungen. where they belong. Boot Coach P. and SH,
then we talk..
#Post#: 33890--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Accelerator
Date: September 10, 2021, 3:35 pm
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
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> [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg33887#msg33887
date=1631289497]
> The Big 12 is officially expanding with Cincinnati, Houston,
BYU, and UCF.
>
>
HTML https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx
>
> This means other G5 leagues like the AAC and Sun Belt will be
making some moves, which means CUSA will make some moves as
well, which in all likelihood will open the door for a few FCS
moveups. I fully expect JMU to be FBS and out of the CAA by
2025. Their president is a goddamn idiot if they're still in the
CAA at that point.
>
> Can SBU move up from this? Highly unlikely unless a conference
takes a gamble on our market and academics (which seem to matter
less now). We would have had a real chance had all of this
happened five years ago, but now with our current leadership I
don't see us going anywhere. McGinniss doesn't seem to be much
of a sports person despite coming from Texas, and the athletic
leadership has clearly proven themselves to be inept. In any
case, keep an eye on the situation and hope this opens a spot
for SBU to improve their conference affiliation somewhere.
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm sorry, but with all due respect. Do you really think SBU
should move up ahead of Delaware, UNH, Maine, Rhode Island, UA
etc??? Hell no. SBU university deserves to stay at the bottom of
the cellar, dungen. where they belong. Boot Coach P. and SH,
then we talk..
[/quote]
We're definitely better than Albany, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode
Island, etc. solely based on media market. Delaware has had the
on-field success to justify it but I'm surprised they didn't
move up after the Flacco era.
#Post#: 33892--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: September 10, 2021, 5:07 pm
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or even before the flacco era. they won a title if i remember,
maybe 20 years ago?
if im a conference looking for members, im looking at academics,
endowment, seating, attendance, fan support, location, etc. SB
simply doesnt have the atmosphere to support a loyal fanbase (or
the reverse?) and i think this turns away buyers. you get that
with other CAA schools. my opinion.
#Post#: 33893--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: guest410
Date: September 10, 2021, 7:28 pm
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--- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
>
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg33889#msg33889
date=1631304810]
> [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg33887#msg33887
date=1631289497]
> The Big 12 is officially expanding with Cincinnati, Houston,
BYU, and UCF.
>
>
HTML https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx
>
> This means other G5 leagues like the AAC and Sun Belt will be
making some moves, which means CUSA will make some moves as
well, which in all likelihood will open the door for a few FCS
moveups. I fully expect JMU to be FBS and out of the CAA by
2025. Their president is a goddamn idiot if they're still in the
CAA at that point.
>
> Can SBU move up from this? Highly unlikely unless a conference
takes a gamble on our market and academics (which seem to matter
less now). We would have had a real chance had all of this
happened five years ago, but now with our current leadership I
don't see us going anywhere. McGinniss doesn't seem to be much
of a sports person despite coming from Texas, and the athletic
leadership has clearly proven themselves to be inept. In any
case, keep an eye on the situation and hope this opens a spot
for SBU to improve their conference affiliation somewhere.
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm sorry, but with all due respect. Do you really think SBU
should move up ahead of Delaware, UNH, Maine, Rhode Island, UA
etc??? Hell no. SBU university deserves to stay at the bottom of
the cellar, dungen. where they belong. Boot Coach P. and SH,
then we talk..
[/quote]
We're definitely better than Albany, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode
Island, etc. solely based on media market. Delaware has had the
on-field success to justify it but I'm surprised they didn't
move up after the Flacco era.
[/quote]
Rhode Island Basketball catapults them ahead of all CAA teams
aside from JMU and Delaware when other conferences come looking.
They're already in the A10, constantly field good Basketball
teams and they have the money to upgrade facilities.
#Post#: 34077--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: October 18, 2021, 10:50 pm
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Our Athletic Department seems too inept right now to do anything
about this, but it is expected that The American will expand
with six schools from Conference USA
HTML https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-the-aac-close-to-massive-6-school-expansion-to-reshape-conference-014015069.html
On the heels of this expansion, it would be expected that the
Sun Belt would also pursue the additions of Marshall and
Southern Miss, as well as potentially James Madison and Old
Dominion. In any case CUSA could lose between eight and 10 of
its schools. In such a scenario the conference would certainly
look to backfill with schools and that would almost certainly
open up a spot for SBU if we were wiling to make the upgrade to
FBS and join the league.
Personally, playing basketball with the likes of FIU, Middle
Tennessee, and UTEP among God knows who else doesn't appeal to
me very much. HOWEVER, should a that conference get desperate
enough and seek football only additions, I think it would be
wise to look at making the move if it ever came to that. Granted
all of this is extremely unlikely as I doubt the CUSA leftovers
would have the need/desire to bring us on, nor would SH have it
in him to make such a bold move, but the option is on the table.
In any case, JMU is certainly out of the CAA after all is said
and done here. Does that destabilize the CAA to allow the AE to
pick off a couple schools for the All-sports conference? Remains
to be seen. Hartford dropping down to D3 will open up at least
one spot in the league.
#Post#: 34078--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: October 19, 2021, 12:58 am
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things are getting interesting. a lot shuffling in the mid and
low-tier leagues coming soon.
After this wave of realignment... there is no way the American
will have any hope of Power6 talks. Those are some really bad
programs its adding to its membership. I'm glad UConn got out
when it did and landed in the Big East/FB Indie.
#Post#: 34079--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: October 19, 2021, 4:19 am
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Let's see if SH and company have what it takes to get SB out of
the America East, and into a more prominent conference for
sports. As far as our football team. They should stay exactly
where they are. In the CAA. I don't see any FBS conference
looking to reach out to SH about going FBS anyways. There is
hope for Lax and some other AE teams to move up.
I hope SH doesn't $uck this once-in-a-lifetime conference
realignment. But he will!!!
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