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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: guest410 Date: July 26, 2021, 10:27 pm
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg33759#msg33759
date=1627355099]
[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=368.msg33752#msg33752 date=1627318172]
or perhaps your prediction (which i very much appreciate) is
that there'll be so much other movement in between FBS and FCS
that there'll be openings somehwere... thanks.
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Precisely this. These moves at the P5 always have far reaching
massive trickle down effects. The gist of it is that Texas and
OU leaving the Big 12 cause the Big 12 to raid the AAC for
replacement schools, which causes the AAC to raid CUSA/the Sun
Belt/JMU for replacements, which causes those leagues to search
for replacements, and in all of that shuffling, the idea is that
one or two spots open up in the FBS for a few schools. In a
dream world SBU would get one of those spots, but that's not
happening most likely. I mention the CAA collapsing because JMU
leaving could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and
causes Richmond, William and Mary, UNCW, CoC etc. to look
elsewhere, which opens the door for the America East to grab a
couple schools. The CAA has no cohesion with football and non
football, public and private, northern and southern... all kinds
of different instiutions with no cohesion there. That makes them
easy pickings potentially once JMU is gone. With Hartford
dropping to D3 we should try and pull in some replacements.
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Idk if he's on here, or maybe you're him, but Jeffrey Bernstein
mentioned earlier this evening about a possible CAA-AE merger
post-BIG 12 shakeup. It's a far out-there idea but isn't the
craziest thing I've heard even today. I have zero clues how the
fuck that feasibly works, but a merger honestly seems like an
interesting thought, at the very least... Maybe all the schools
that currently have football programs become one conference and
all non-football schools become another, and then they have
Northeast and Southeast subdivisions, who knows, but there's
something to it, even if it's totally out of left field.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 27, 2021, 7:25 am
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same. great conversation, thanks guys.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: ecasadoSBU Date: July 27, 2021, 8:30 am
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Honestly guys...
It's not worth it. With all the crap going on right now. Lets
just stay in place and play in the FCS until the whole system
implodes anyway.
Whats the point on making all this additional investments
required to play FBS when the returns are simply NOT there? We
don't even have the fanbase to sustain it
The entire FBS is feeling the pinch everytime the P5 (soon to be
P4) take more of the cash. Not enough people want to watch
non-P5 FBS so all those programs are in the same boat as FCS
schools. So why fall for this senseless arms race where only the
SEC/B1G/ACC/PAC and coaching staff will make money?
If I were Stony Brook AD I would ensure that my program simply
sticks around while minimizing the financial bleeding TODAY so
that when the whole system implodes we can be in a position to
at least have a football program.
What I think the future holds is a semi-pro football league for
the top-40 College Football programs and then everyone else will
re-assemble into amateurish conferences. At least I hope that's
the outcome. I firmly believe that NIL will be the game-changer
now and create more separation between the have and have-nots.
The NCAA already hinted that the current model needs to be
decentralized. What we need is for the NCAA/Conferences to
seperate football from everything else.
Lets keep calm and support our team. Attend our games if we want
to without feeling like we have to make a move cuz everyone else
is.
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When the dust settles I hope someday we find ourselves in a
football league of
STONY BROOK
BUFFALO
CONNECTICUT
TEMPLE
MASSACHUSETTS
DELAWARE
ALBANY
TOWSON
All those schools are all on the same boat at this point.
Massive money losers in a forgotten Northeast region. I hate to
admit it. But that's our realistic ceiling. We arrived 100 years
late to the party when then cake-cutting was already in
progress.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Hammertime Date: July 27, 2021, 8:54 am
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Fellas, all this talk about SB football going FBS this and
joining Buffalo, Temple, etc... SB football was just picked to
finish in 10th out of 12 spot in the CAA. I think that is
actually a little better than what I would have picked.
Unless this university cleans house and starts all over again,
this program is finished.
HTML https://twitter.com/CAAFootball/status/1420008570611933184
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: ry1nik Date: July 27, 2021, 3:59 pm
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Agree with much of the sentiment here. Hoping that SBU will or
should ever go FBS is futile. And of it ever did, it will almost
certainly drain resources from academics…which is after all the
reason for a university in the first place.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 28, 2021, 4:17 pm
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[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg33763#msg33763
date=1627394081]
Fellas, all this talk about SB football going FBS this and
joining Buffalo, Temple, etc... SB football was just picked to
finish in 10th out of 12 spot in the CAA. I think that is
actually a little better than what I would have picked.
Unless this university cleans house and starts all over again,
this program is finished.
HTML https://twitter.com/CAAFootball/status/1420008570611933184
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Pretty sure Maine was picked to finish 9th the year they went to
the FCS semis. I put zero stock in these polls.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 28, 2021, 4:57 pm
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it's a good point- we talk about FBS, because it's fun, but it
costs. and right now, shouldnt we be worried about cuts???
never mind winning, apathetic fans, attendance, style of play...
$$$ is the issue.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: guest410 Date: July 28, 2021, 8:56 pm
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg33766#msg33766
date=1627507077]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg33763#msg33763
date=1627394081]
Fellas, all this talk about SB football going FBS this and
joining Buffalo, Temple, etc... SB football was just picked to
finish in 10th out of 12 spot in the CAA. I think that is
actually a little better than what I would have picked.
Unless this university cleans house and starts all over again,
this program is finished.
HTML https://twitter.com/CAAFootball/status/1420008570611933184
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Pretty sure Maine was picked to finish 9th the year they went to
the FCS semis. I put zero stock in these polls.
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Albany was picked 11th in 2019 and ended up not only making the
playoffs but winning their first-round game. Elon was picked to
finish dead last this year, and every FCS reporter I've spoken
to think's the Phoenix will finish in the top half of the
conference, and are being slept on. William & Mary was a very
common choice (by the over 20 FCS reporters I've spoken to) to
finish in last, tied with SBU.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 28, 2021, 11:00 pm
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Latest rumors have it that ESPN is conspiring with The American
to poach some of the remaining Big 12 schools so the conference
can disband and they can get out of having to pay them the media
rights. It would also get Texas and Oklahoma out of having to
pay the exit fees to the remaining members. If you all remember
how ESPN killed the Big East a decade ago, they're doing it
again here. This is about to get crazy. Expect court cases and a
lot of mudslinging.
HTML https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-commissioner-alleges-espn-conspired-with-sec-american-to-lure-teams-from-conference/<br
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Chairman of the Board Date: August 25, 2021, 8:38 am
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another piece of the puzzle:
HTML https://bigten.org/news/2021/8/24/general-acc-big-ten-and-pac-12-announce-historic-alliance.aspx
short version- my hot take is that this will even further push
out the other/smaller conferences to do something, and to do it
quickly. because the line between the haves and the havenots
just got brighter. thoughts?
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