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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: ecasadoSBU Date: May 13, 2021, 9:42 am
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[quote author=Accelerator link=topic=368.msg33454#msg33454
date=1620743866]
Why would Stony Brook want to associate itself with lowly
schools like CCSU?
Stony Brook is too good and popular of a school to be in the
same conference as New Hampshire, Maine, UMass Lowell, NJIT, and
(formerly) Hartford, which if I didn't follow the America East,
I would have assumed those were all D2/D3 schools. If you told
me when I was a student here at Stony Brook back in the early
2010s that in 10 years, we would still be in this conference, I
would have laughed.
[/quote]
I don't mind the flagship state schools in New England. Nothing
wrong with Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont. But when you start
going down to UMass Lowell, NJIT, and Hartford it does bother me
a little bit as it doesn't feel like a natural fit for Stony
Brook
UConn, UMass, and Rutgers would be more natural fit in those
states.
But we also need to realize where we come from to understand
better why we are here. Stony Brook was founded in 1957 which is
very recent relative to other northern universities. It grew
very quickly and gained a strong academic reputation in just a
few decades. But we only joined Division I in the late 90s. We
joined the party late and the pecking order in athletics was
already established. We are also a victim of our geographic
location. The appetite for college sports in the Northeast is
not the same as down south. A school like Central Florida which
was founded after Stony Brook was able to climb the college
athletics ranks much faster - But Florida is a huge market for
college sports. Even a directional school like UCF can draw 40k
football crowds in a state where UF/FSU draw 80k crowds
For Stony Brook the road will definitely be a much longer one.
Our best bet is for us to continue to support our alma mater and
hopefully some day it achieves critical mass. Maybe we win a big
game in the NCAAs in the future which catapults us into a better
league/draws more fans. For now I say we should continue doing
things right - invest in facilities, run a clean program,
compete in all sports, strive to be the best in the America East
until those days come.
#Post#: 33735--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 22, 2021, 1:24 am
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Massive shakeup in the Big 12 over the last few hours. Texas an
Oklahoma are on the out. They're talking to the SEC and likely
the Pac-12 and Big Ten as well. That league literally just
imploded over the course of a few hours.
HTML https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-powers-texas-oklahoma-inquire-about-joining-sec-in-potentially-massive-realignment-shakeup/<br
/>
HTML https://twitter.com/jasonwhitely/status/1418041621820579841?s=21
Normally realignment trickles down all the way to the FCS in one
form or another. This time though, I don't see it impacting SBU
in any meaningful way. Heilbron has failed to make us an an
attractive candidate for an FBS conference. We're stuck here.
This may get JMU a spot somewhere though, so my prediction about
them being gone soon stands.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Hammertime Date: July 22, 2021, 4:39 am
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg33735#msg33735
date=1626935053]
Massive shakeup in the Big 12 over the last few hours. Texas an
Oklahoma are on the out. They're talking to the SEC and likely
the Pac-12 and Big Ten as well. That league literally just
imploded over the course of a few hours.
HTML https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-powers-texas-oklahoma-inquire-about-joining-sec-in-potentially-massive-realignment-shakeup/<br
/>
HTML https://twitter.com/jasonwhitely/status/1418041621820579841?s=21
Normally realignment trickles down all the way to the FCS in one
form or another. This time though, I don't see it impacting SBU
in any meaningful way. Heilbron has failed to make us an an
attractive candidate for an FBS conference. We're stuck here.
This may get JMU a spot somewhere though, so my prediction about
them being gone soon stands.
[/quote]
The article says the Big12 has to vote on allowing Texas and
Oklahoma to depart, and it is not looking likely that they will
be granted leave.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 22, 2021, 7:22 am
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wow, they've already lost colorado, arkansas, nebraska after a
long run of stability. now this? if it happens, of course...
i could see why the SEC would want texas/ok games against LSU,
bama, florida, georgia, auburn. there's a lot of eyeballs on
that game every week.
the B12 though would still be decent in bball i think.
i recall when texas started this whole mess with the longhorn
network.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 22, 2021, 9:28 am
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[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=368.msg33736#msg33736
date=1626946761]
[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=368.msg33735#msg33735
date=1626935053]
Massive shakeup in the Big 12 over the last few hours. Texas an
Oklahoma are on the out. They're talking to the SEC and likely
the Pac-12 and Big Ten as well. That league literally just
imploded over the course of a few hours.
HTML https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-powers-texas-oklahoma-inquire-about-joining-sec-in-potentially-massive-realignment-shakeup/<br
/>
HTML https://twitter.com/jasonwhitely/status/1418041621820579841?s=21
Normally realignment trickles down all the way to the FCS in one
form or another. This time though, I don't see it impacting SBU
in any meaningful way. Heilbron has failed to make us an an
attractive candidate for an FBS conference. We're stuck here.
This may get JMU a spot somewhere though, so my prediction about
them being gone soon stands.
[/quote]
The article says the Big12 has to vote on allowing Texas and
Oklahoma to depart, and it is not looking likely that they will
be granted leave.
[/quote]
That's if they leave before the GOR ends in 2025. If they don't
want to give up any money, they can simply wait out the GOR and
then move to the SEC/wherever. The Big 12 was always Texas, OU,
and then everyone else. If those two leave, the rest of the
league is AAC tier at best. I think it's a done deal they move
at this point, only question is where. I fully expect the Pac-12
and Big Ten to go all out to get Texas and/or OU as well. SEC
would be crazy lucrative, but you have A&M, Missouri,
Vanderbilt, and potentially others who may attempt to block the
move.
I think a big driver for this is the new laws that let players
make money off their name and likeness. The Alabama QB already
has a million in endorsement deals. Way more money in that kind
of thing if you're in the SEC compared to the Big 12. Money
driving realignment as it always has.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 22, 2021, 9:31 am
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oh that post reminded me- i left out missouri too, and of course
when i mentioned arkansas i meant the big8 days, pre-big 12.
that's if memory serves!
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: ecasadoSBU Date: July 22, 2021, 10:48 am
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I just hope the whole system implodes.
that we start from scratch with a new system of amateurism where
coaching salaries are severely capped, where student-athletes
are truly student-athlete and not semi-professionals, and where
resources are allocated on somewhat fairer basis or returned
back to the academic mission of the university. TV revenues
should be shared by all members to keep a competitive balance
and conferences should be limited to 8 members in regional
geographic footprints.
I'm so tired of this current system.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Hammertime Date: July 23, 2021, 4:46 am
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[quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=368.msg33740#msg33740
date=1626968895]
I just hope the whole system implodes.
that we start from scratch with a new system of amateurism where
coaching salaries are severely capped, where student-athletes
are truly student-athlete and not semi-professionals, and where
resources are allocated on somewhat fairer basis or returned
back to the academic mission of the university. TV revenues
should be shared by all members to keep a competitive balance
and conferences should be limited to 8 members in regional
geographic footprints.
I'm so tired of this current system.
[/quote]
I have to agree with you about this. I stopped watching pro
sports because athletes no longer care about the game but care
more about making as much money as possible.I get that. It's a
job but most athletes today are taking for granted their
god-given gift to be an athlete and the love for the sport over
money.
Now athletes can get paid to do play sports in college they will
have that same attitude as pro athletes. It is no longer about
playing ball, and the love for the sport. It's all about money.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: Chairman of the Board Date: July 23, 2021, 7:07 am
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same, spot on. its really been getting worse over the past 20
years. i think the golden age was maybe the 80s when you could
flip on national channels and see MJ, montana to rice, gretzky,
elway, magic, bird, dan marino, etc. and you had to wait until
the next paper came out for scores/stats.
#Post#: 33745--------------------------------------------------
Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
By: guest410 Date: July 23, 2021, 11:15 am
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[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=368.msg33744#msg33744 date=1627042072]
same, spot on. its really been getting worse over the past 20
years. i think the golden age was maybe the 80s when you could
flip on national channels and see MJ, montana to rice, gretzky,
elway, magic, bird, dan marino, etc. and you had to wait until
the next paper came out for scores/stats.
[/quote]
Never a dull day for sports fans back in the 80's. Wish I had
been alive for that. The Bad Boy Detroit Pistons, the University
of Miami football glory days, Magic versus Bird, the beginning
of MJ. Wow.
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