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Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: Quickdraw62
Date: October 30, 2011, 7:52 am
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One thing to look for this year: I wouldn't be surprised if at
times Pikiell puts Jackson (or even Rouse) at the PG so that
they can go with shooters on both wings (Hayes and Dougher),
along with two bigs. If there's a way to run Dougher off the
ball at times, I think it will help him get easier
shots......I'm also wondering if anyone has any info on the
scrimmage yesterday against Central Ct. State University?
#Post#: 316--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: sbufan
Date: October 31, 2011, 9:35 am
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It's going to be an interesting season. There are a lot of guys
on this roster that deserve to see significant minutes and
probably could on most other teams in the conference. I
definitely like the idea of having Dougher play off ball. You're
not losing anything at pg as far as creating for others by
playing Rouse or Jackson at the 1 and moving Dougher to the 2.
I'm hoping Rouse has a big season. I watched him shoot around
after practice while rehabbing from his knee surgery last year
and he is automatic from within 20 feet. I'm sure a lot DI
guards are but it was a really impressive shoot around to me.
#Post#: 318--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: SBd3guy
Date: October 31, 2011, 11:46 am
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I wouldn't be so quick to move Dougher off the ball. As someone
who has seen many years of SB hoops...and no disrespect to any
former players...the stability and high bball IQ that Dougher
has brought to the backcourt has been a huge factor in digging
SB up from the bottom of D1 hoops.
#Post#: 319--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: sbufan
Date: October 31, 2011, 12:31 pm
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I wasn't following Stony Brook basketball before Dougher got
here, but from what I've heard/read he was exactly we needed.
Not flashy, but doesn't make mistakes and plays solid
fundamental basketball. I've seen some guys over on the America
East board criticize Dougher's defense which is strange because
I've never thought of Dougher as a liability on defense. Does
anyone else agree because I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
listening to the posters talk about him over there. Outside of
coaches opinions, he must be the most underrated player in the
conference.
I think I would like to see Dougher get 30+ minutes and play
something like 10 of them of ball, but I'm no coach.
#Post#: 325--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: SBd3guy
Date: October 31, 2011, 1:30 pm
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sbufan...agree with u 100%. What went on over on the other board
for a brief time was nonsense. Most of those guys are pretty
rational, but a couple of them went off the reservation when
their guys didn't make pre-season all conf...like anybody gives
a crap (incl the players who either did or didn't make it). The
stuff on his defense is ridiculous too...he's no ball hawk and
doesn't have great foot speed...but he works hard and plays a
very acceptable level of d (and takes charges and is first on
the floor for every loose ball). Tough kid.
#Post#: 330--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: Quickdraw62
Date: October 31, 2011, 3:30 pm
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Dougher is a solid player, and believe me, he is the best player
to run the point. However, I am only suggesting that during
games it will benefit him and the team when he can be moved off
the ball for a few minutes. He's the best shooter besides
Hayes, but he needs shots created for him (screens, etc.) in
order for him to shoot a better % (like his Soph. year as
opposed to last year). Also, giving him a break from primary
ball-handling responsibilites will keep him fresher over the
long haul. Dougher/Hayes on the wings is a very good situation
along with either Jackson or Rouse initiating the offense (if
it's Rouse, you really have some shooters out there, and Jackson
isn't a bad shooter either).....as to his defense, he's not an
elite defender, but is certainly adequate. His willingness to
take charges and get on the floor make him a better defender
than his physical ability translates to. In all fairness
though, I'd prefer to have Jackson, Coley or Rouse guarding
Irving/Black/DeLaRosa with the game on the line.....
#Post#: 336--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: SBd3guy
Date: October 31, 2011, 4:29 pm
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Quick...agree all points. Does seem like they try to get him a
few minutes off the ball and usually for the reason u
mention...give him a breather. Also agree that with Hayes ready
from game one, the addition of Bracey, Rouse, Coley, AND the
return of Brenton...a lot more available firepower to take some
of the heat off Dougher.
#Post#: 360--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: InsideMan
Date: November 2, 2011, 10:18 am
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During 2009-2010, El-Amin drew all the attention from defenses.
This allowed Dougher to move off the ball, work off screens and
get some open looks at the hoop.
Last year when when Martin was out for a few games Dougher was
forced to become the primary offensive weapon, which simply is
not his game. He isn't the type of guard who uses speed and
power to break through a double team.
I think Bryan is going to have an outstanding year now that
there are plenty of other offensive weapons around him to keep
defenses busy.
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Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: February 27, 2012, 11:26 am
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So now that the season is over. Will Dougher and Brenton be on
the first team? I surely think they can. Dougher has done a
great job this senior year and Brenton also.
#Post#: 1540--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011-12 America East Men's Basketball Preseason Poll /
All-Conference Team
DIR By: Quickdraw62
Date: February 27, 2012, 1:47 pm
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
>
> So now that the season is over. Will Dougher and Brenton be on
the first team? I surely think they can. Dougher has done a
great job this senior year and Brenton also.
>
--- End Quote ---
Interesting question in regards to both players. As we all
know, winning teams usually get the benefit of the doubt when it
comes to post-season awards; a player must really put up huge
numbers to be selected 1st team when his team doesn't have
success. That said, for my money (I seriously doubt this is
what the league's team will look like, but...):
1st Team of Partin, Dougher, Brenton, Suero and Irving (Suero
POY)
2nd Team of Black, Fraser, Voelkel, McLemore and Aronhalt
3rd Team of Edwards, McGlynn, Plummer, Glass and Abreu
All Rookie Team of McGlynn, Edwards, Nwakamma, Sikma and
Dickinson (Edwards ROY)...COY is Becker)
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