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       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: ecasadoSBU
       Date: May 27, 2020, 1:51 am
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       > [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=299.msg30572#msg30572 date=1590526598]
       > Stony Brook University ranked 45th among all US universities
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       > [quote]Stony Brook University has been ranked 45th among all
       U.S. universities, according to QS World University Rankings. In
       addition, the university was 15 among public universities
       nationwide and named the top public university in New York.
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  HTML https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2020
       40 ND
       41 Cal Irvine
       42 Rutgers
       43 Case Western
       44 Illinois Chicago
       45 SBU
       46 Buffalo
       47 Penn State
       48 BC
       49 Maryland
       50 UVa
       [/quote]
       I read the article. They are #45 because of international
       ethnicity.  Say it ain't so. My son is an honor student at SCCC
       is is looking to finish his undergraduate degree either at SB or
       Binghamton.  I told him go with Binghamton for his business
       degree. He wont fit well with 45% of asians in his class rooms
       at Stony Brook
       [/quote]
       So anything other that a white majority is unacceptable at a NY
       university? The 45% Asians may make him a better and more
       focused student
       I would tell him to attend whichever has the best Business
       program or the best reputation...
       #Post#: 30576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 27, 2020, 4:46 am
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       --- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
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       > [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=299.msg30574#msg30574
       date=1590534288]
       > [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=299.msg30572#msg30572 date=1590526598]
       > Stony Brook University ranked 45th among all US universities
       >
  HTML http://longisland.news12.com/story/42159848/stony-brook-university-ranked-45th-among-all-us-universities
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       > [quote]Stony Brook University has been ranked 45th among all
       U.S. universities, according to QS World University Rankings. In
       addition, the university was 15 among public universities
       nationwide and named the top public university in New York.
       >
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  HTML https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2020
       40 ND
       41 Cal Irvine
       42 Rutgers
       43 Case Western
       44 Illinois Chicago
       45 SBU
       46 Buffalo
       47 Penn State
       48 BC
       49 Maryland
       50 UVa
       [/quote]
       I read the article. They are #45 because of international
       ethnicity.  Say it ain't so. My son is an honor student at SCCC
       is is looking to finish his undergraduate degree either at SB or
       Binghamton.  I told him go with Binghamton for his business
       degree. He wont fit well with 45% of asians in his class rooms
       at Stony Brook
       [/quote]
       So anything other that a white majority is unacceptable at a NY
       university? The 45% Asians may make him a better and more
       focused student
       I would tell him to attend whichever has the best Business
       program or the best reputation...
       [/quote]
       I dont agree with it. Stony Brook high percentage of
       international diversity students have everything to do with
       money. There are a ton of SUNY schools in NYS where he can
       attend and get the same business degree and not sit in a
       classroom with professors who cant speak English or students who
       wont even look at you.
       This is the reason for the very low student fans base at our
       football and basketball games. There's nothing the athletic dept
       can do to make 1000 or more Asians attend football games.
       #Post#: 30577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: ry1nik
       Date: May 27, 2020, 9:02 am
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       The category ratings for SBU actually aren’t very good.
       “Academic reputation” came in low compared to other top
       universities. The boost from “international diversity” (a
       questionable measure of quality) accounts for the overall high
       ranking.
       #Post#: 30578--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: May 27, 2020, 9:07 am
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       i did notice that- when you read the guts of the article and how
       they factored that in.
       nevertheless- appropriate for the thread!
       #Post#: 30579--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: ry1nik
       Date: May 27, 2020, 9:12 am
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       Yeah, like who would actually choose SBU over UVA (which is
       ranked lower than SBU).
       #Post#: 30581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: Moveitfred
       Date: May 27, 2020, 2:25 pm
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       "International diversity" is indeed a worthy and debatable topic
       when it comes to the operation of a university. What hasn't been
       stated yet is the fact that those international students
       contribute greatly to the reasonable cost of education for
       your/our native students. It certainly is about money...in a
       financial equation that tends to favor native NY students in a
       significant way.
       But when one-sided characterizations of ethnic groups and
       not-so-veiled racist tropes enter into the discussion, that to
       me is not appropriate and should not be shrugged off as "just
       the way things are."
       A high five to those of you who challenge those
       stereotypes...you are First-Team All AE in your rankings and
       accomplishments and make SBU a better place.
       #Post#: 30583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
       Date: May 28, 2020, 1:26 am
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       When we're ahead of schools like Buffalo, Penn State, Maryland,
       and BC, I'm not going to sit here and argue with the ranking.
       I also wouldn't choose to not send my kid to SBU based on the
       assertion that the teachers "won't speak English." What a
       ridiculous thing to say.
       #Post#: 30584--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 28, 2020, 4:59 am
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       > When we're ahead of schools like Buffalo, Penn State,
       Maryland, and BC, I'm not going to sit here and argue with the
       ranking.
       >
       >
       > I also wouldn't choose to not send my kid to SBU based on the
       assertion that the teachers "won't speak English." What a
       ridiculous thing to say.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's not a ridiculous thing to say. If you cant understand the
       professor speaking what good is it. This is not something we all
       don't already know. The language barrier between students and
       professor is concerning. I know many, and I mean many students
       who turned away from SB because of this issue.
       #Post#: 30585--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: May 28, 2020, 6:40 am
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       i do recall talking to a parent of a prospective athlete over 20
       years ago- kid liked the team, dad was concerned with academics.
       only had one question- do the professors speak english,
       particular in mathematics.
       LI is rather insular.  especially out in suffolk.
       again i have no dog in the fight; i welcome diversity.  just
       passing on the news.
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       Re: Academic Rankings & Accomplishments
   DIR By: Moveitfred
       Date: June 2, 2020, 9:10 am
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       --- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
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       > I know many, and I mean many students who turned away from SB
       because of this issue.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Of course SBU is not lacking in applications, interest, and
       reputation from an academic standpoint. If many of these
       students exist and choose to turn away for a reason like this,
       that certainly is just one more thing that makes SBU better.
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