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Game 14 - SBU @ Virginia Commonwealth - SNY
DIR By: districtballer
Date: June 20, 2013, 11:35 am
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Jon Rothstein and Steve Pikiell have both stated that Stony
Brook will be coming to VCU this fall in men's basketball. I
just wanted to welcome any SB fans that are making the trek down
to Richmond for the game and answer any questions you may have
about the team. You guys had a great team last year and although
Tommy Brenton is gone, still return a lot and should be plenty
good again this season. I'm excited for the match-up! Warney in
particular I think can make a nice jump and should introduce
himself to the country next season as a bona fide mid-major
star. There is also a VCU-Stony Brook connection player-wise.
Anthony Jackson was a high school teammate in the same class
with VCU senior guard Rob Brandenberg at Gahanna Lincoln in
Ohio. I'm sure both of them are going to love the opportunity to
play each other!
I think it's really cool that Stony Brook led the nation in road
wins last year and that's extremely impressive. VCU should be a
good test of the Seawolves' road toughness as we have the 12th
home highest winning percentage in the country at the D1 level.
We're going to get to see what happens when an unstoppable force
meets an immovable object!
It has all the makings of a great game. Here's to a clean,
well-played game with no injuries for either side!
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: June 20, 2013, 11:52 am
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Hi dballer, I live and work down here in Chester VA so there
will be at least one Seawolf in attendance. Welcome to the
board.
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: AlexanderJoachim
Date: June 20, 2013, 1:24 pm
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I'm definitely going to try and make it down from
Baltimore. I was almost going to be at VCU this fall for
pharmacy school but I will be in Baltimore in stead. It should
be a good game. It would have been nice to see it played with
Tommy Brenton.
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: districtballer
Date: June 20, 2013, 2:16 pm
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Very cool!
Yes, I'm sure having the national DPOY in Brenton would have
helped Stony Brook, but you guys have plenty coming back. I have
to think you guys are likely favored in America East or close to
it this season.
I also forgot yet another Stony Brook-VCU connection as SB
freshman Ryan Burnett is from the city of Richmond and actually
was high school teammates with one of our freshmen Jordan
Burgess at Benedictine Prep. It will be both a homecoming for
Burnett and a reunion of sorts between him and Burgess.
Lots of common ties in this match-up!
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: June 20, 2013, 2:28 pm
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Considering you guys brought up Basketball, here's a clip of the
2013 season !!!!
HTML http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062013aab.html
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: districtballer
Date: June 20, 2013, 4:20 pm
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Very cool link. Thanks! Hard not to be impressed with the job
Pikiell is doing there. New arena renderings look great too!
For those that are interested in VCU, here's an overview of last
season:
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0kzFh5kFhw
It gives you a good overview of our style, home atmosphere, and
the personnel. We return 4 of our top 5 scorers back so it will
be very similar for our game from a style of play and personnel
standpoint.
Our only common opponent last season was UMass who we played
twice (86-68 at home and 71-62 in the conference tourney). Of
course the transitive property really doesn't communicate much
about our match-up, but its the only common data point we have.
If you have any other questions, feel free to shoot 'em!
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: June 20, 2013, 4:45 pm
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Cool Video dballer. On this board, we've had may discussions
about Stony Brook Basketball moving on to a bigger, stronger
conference and the overall opinions have been mixed.. Some fans
think we should stay in the AE and be the top dog, I for one
disagree. I think SB should move to the A10 for many reasons.
One of the top reason is recruitment. A10 is a respectable
conference for Basketball and would be perfect fir for us. ..
How do you feel about SB Basketball playing in the A10??
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: districtballer
Date: June 20, 2013, 5:21 pm
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I do think Stony Brook has upward mobility potential. I thought
given Stony Brook's football program the CAA would be ideal in
the interim before moving to a FBS league like the MAC.
The rumor has been that Stu Rabinowitz at Hofstra has been
blocking Stony Brook as an all-sports addition to the CAA which
is unfortunate. America East to the CAA is a jump that has been
done several times before with schools like Towson, Delaware,
Hofstra, and Northeastern all former members who made the jump.
It would make sense as a logical next step for Stony Brook as
well.
I don't know that I've ever heard of an America East school
jumping up immediately to the A-10. That's a huge jump in men's
basketball although admittedly not so much in many other sports.
The A-10 is a basketball league through and through. That's
another consideration. For example SB making the College World
Series in baseball was a big deal, the A-10 is pretty bad in
that sport. The CAA is a lot better. As an all-sports league,
the CAA is actually much more well-rounded and has a very, very
strong FCS product whereas the A-10 has no football league at
all.
Stony Brook's AAU affiliation is also very impressive and will
add academic prestige to any conference it joins. To be honest
the CAA has a better level of academic membership than that of
the A-10 as well. That's something to consider for any school
president.
The A-10 is for schools that are singularly focused on men's
basketball. That's what our administration is committed to and
we do it very well. UMass is an exception with FBS football, and
it makes them a bit of a flight risk. For that reason I think
the A-10 will be extremely wary of adding Stony Brook. Temple
was a long time A-10 standard-bearer but FBS football ultimately
led to their departure.
Football vs. Basketball has been a real part of conference
realignment and every conference is trying to build stability
through any additions they make. As a basketball conference, the
A-10 has been largely insulated from realignment since most
shifts in the past have occurred due to football allegiances
dictating where schools go. With the Big East now being another
basketball-only league, that changed last year. That said, the
attrition with basketball schools will be limited due to having
less basketball conferences out there and the A-10 being near
the top in the category.
To be honest I see schools like Siena or Charleston more likely
due to the fact that they are committed to basketball only and
present more stable additions who will stick around. That's my
honest take on it.
I do think the best conference for Stony Brook is an all-sports
conference in the CAA to build their FCS product before
eventually moving on to an all-sports FBS conference like the
MAC. I'm certain this is where Fiore eventually wants the
school's AD if he's being honest. The A-10 can't provide that so
I can't imagine we'd entertain Stony Brook seriously. That's not
an indictment of Stony Brook by any means, it's just a bad fit
because we want different things.
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: June 20, 2013, 6:10 pm
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Very thorough explanation on that topic and you hit the nail on
the head. The Hofstra president is really putting the screws
into us and I think something needs to be done about that. I
don't know if SB has any recourse though because it's my
understanding, a couple of other schools are going along with
Rabinowitz and that's a shame...
The CAA would be a perfect fit for ALL of our Div1 sports
program. I don't like the idea we have Football in the CAA and
everything else in the AE. The AE was very good to SB but, I
feel they have outgrown that conference and are ready to move up
and prepare for bigger challenges..
I have a feeling SB is stuck where we are for the foreseeable
future but, some people are ok with that because we are the 700
pound Gorilla in the conference. I think in order to be bigger
and better we need play stronger teams and move up to a more
respectable conference, and the A10 is one of them, for
Basketball at least !!!
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Re: OOC: Stony Brook at VCU
DIR By: districtballer
Date: June 20, 2013, 6:55 pm
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No doubt, but much like you didn't like being in the CAA for
football and AE for everything else, you'd be in the exact same
position if you joined the A-10 with football in another league.
As realignment has shown time and time again, football is king
when it comes to making conference decisions. This makes Stony
Brook a volatile add for any hoops conference, and the A-10 is
certainly that.
I think everyone knows Stony Brook would only be using the A-10
to improve basketball and as a stepping stone to a FBS league
since it's central program involves a sport the A-10 does not
offer. SB's AD knows a hoops league is not the end-goal and so
does the A-10's administration.
For that reason it's a non-starter and unlikely to happen.
Basketball schools will be on the candidate list if the A-10
ever needs to add members and Stony Brook can't realistically
call themselves that. That's not a bad thing, it's just reality.
Football offers a much higher ceiling revenue wise with many
more destination options so Stony Brook is hardly in a bad place
if they keep growing your program.
The A-10 has football playing members (UMass in the MAC, Rhode
Island and Richmond in the CAA). The difference is neither URI
or UR have any FBS aspirations, and we know the minute UMass
gets an offer from a higher league than the MAC they are gone.
For Stony Brook it's clear they're more like UMass than URI or
Richmond. That makes you a bad fit for the A-10.
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