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       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: April 12, 2014, 6:00 pm
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       Out of all the school you posted there. Illinois, Ohio State,
       and Washington really captivated me. WOW. How beautiful to look
       at... and the crazy thing to think about it.... All these great
       academic institutions are our peers academically... But if you
       ask the average person: they would say that Ohio State,
       Illinois, UWash are several levels above Stony Brook University.
       All these schools are AAU Research Universities with either land
       grant/sea grant/ space grant status. Stony Brook is certainly
       not the land grant university of New York (Cornell holds that
       title unfortunately) but we are a sea grant and space grant
       university with top 35 public status. This is something we
       really have to be proud of. There are 50 states, most states
       have two great schools. Yet, we are considered top 34 in the
       nation. I don't think we sell that enough. This is a majestic
       institution. Our strategic growth plan should take this into
       account. We should grow all corners of this University. We
       should integrate the University more and more with the outside
       community. We should leverage our status as a great institution
       to influence the outside community.
       Stony Brook should be home to multiple Long Island Museums of
       Art, History, Natural History, Science, music,  etc. It should
       be a center where the culture of long island can be celebrated.
       We already have a film and arts festival which is great but we
       need to do more of that. We need to make Stony Brook a
       destination, not only for potential students but also for the
       community, for high school trips, for our senior community. This
       is where we need to work on. We have plenty of space to grow,
       plenty of land. We just need more creativity in building a
       University that Long Island can be proud of, that it can feel as
       its own.
       Stony Brook is Long Island. Long Island is Stony Brook. Gotta
       make this happen.
       The State University of New York at Stony Brook!!!
       #Post#: 10467--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Seawolf97 Date: April 12, 2014, 8:51 pm
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       I agree the school should  broadcast  their academic profile
       more- we are after all only 1 of 3  AAU schools in the Metro
       Area. The other two being NYU and Columbia  which is pretty good
       company since SBU is thousands  of dollars  less.  I don't see
       SBU investing  major dollars  in the  beautification of the
       campus AKA  UNC Chapel Hill  or UVA.  Maybe  someday  but not
       in the near  future.  What monies they do invest will be in
       academics and  research  which isn't  all that  bad.   We may
       see a Virginia   or Stanford  style campus  way out in the
       future but for now  the money is going toward  maintaining and
       advancing academics .
       #Post#: 10468--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Hammertime Date: April 13, 2014, 9:33 am
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       Chrissy. I see Arthur Dokes is on the Spring roster but, I
       haven't seen him on the field. Do you have any information on
       this. Is he still with the team?
       #Post#: 10494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 14, 2014, 1:26 pm
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       [quote] I agree the school should  broadcast  their academic
       profile more- we are after all only 1 of 3  AAU schools in the
       Metro Area. The other two being NYU and Columbia  which is
       pretty good company since SBU is thousands  of dollars  less.  I
       don't see  SBU investing  major dollars  in the  beautification
       of the campus AKA  UNC Chapel Hill  or UVA.  Maybe  someday  but
       not  in the near  future.  What monies they do invest will be in
       academics and  research  which isn't  all that  bad.   We may
       see a Virginia   or Stanford  style campus  way out in the
       future but for now  the money is going toward  maintaining and
       advancing academics .[/quote]
       And to me, this is a problem.  Making the campus more appealing
       WILL change the perception that Crazy Eddie is talking about.
       It will bring better students.  It will bring better athletes.
       It will bring better professors and faculty.  It might just even
       entice some to stick around and then improve the social
       atmosphere.  Kids choose with their eyes; its just a fact.
       State institutions move at a snail's pace with the governmental
       red tape; wheels have to be put in motion NOW if its going to
       improve by 2020.  Case in point is the Student Union.  They have
       GOT to do something about the Union.
       #Post#: 10496--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: sbupatriots Date: April 14, 2014, 7:28 pm
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       Having active alumni like you guys makes a big impact on me and
       my fellow students so thanks a ton. In my two years here at SBU
       I've already seen a ton of momentum in both the social
       atmosphere and athletic support. With each class that comes in I
       feel there are more and more kids that are EXCITED to come here
       as I was. I feel there is a huge difference between those who
       come here because its "a good option" or "my parents wanted me
       to" and those who come here because they really wanted to. These
       are the type of kids who will make a positive difference like
       yourselves.
       As for development of campus. It looks as though Stony Brook is
       pretty set with development up until 2023. Check
  HTML http://www.stonybrook.edu/facilities/data/building-for-the-future-the-draft-plan.pdf<br
       />for all development over the next 10 years.
       #Post#: 10498--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Seawolf97 Date: April 14, 2014, 7:38 pm
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       Patriot I'm  glad you are on board  Welcome.    I didn't attend
       SBU  but my daughter  did and graduated in 1997.  I'm a   SUNY
       grad  and I know the state moves slowly and many of the
       buildings all may look the same at most SUNY schools. I  have
       watched SBU grow both in academics and athletics and we are
       moving fairly quickly over the last 10 or 12 years.  So enjoy
       your stay at SBU  and we will continue to improve.
       #Post#: 10499--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: April 14, 2014, 9:05 pm
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       Thanks for bringing that master plan. I saw it a few months ago
       but forgot about it and didn't bring it up. Unfortunately, as I
       said the plan is not nearly as ambitious as I would like it to
       be and it probably comes down to money to a some extent. If only
       another Jim would come up and throw +$200 million in facilities
       improvement... that would be a heck of a donation.
       Boy, a school like UConn is receiving a $1 Billion (Faculty 500)
       in state funding over the next five year in addition to the $2
       Billion the state provided to UConn throughout the 90s and early
       2000 (21st Century UConn and UConn 2000). Some are going to be
       quick to point out that Connecticut's public higher education
       system is not nearly as extensive as our SUNY system but if you
       consider the size and population of the state of Connecticut you
       would realize that a $1 billion is a hugeeee commitment to
       UConn. Those guys across the sound surely get it. UConn is one
       of the state's vehicle to success...
       ...Stony Brook should be Long Island's vehicle to a
       post-recession and post-sandy recovery. Cuomo has done plenty of
       work with the SUNYs, but he can do a lot more. I remain hopeful.
       I posted this thread on Stony Brook's facebook page to get some
       attention. They replied at least. Hey, you never know...
       Go Seawolves!
       #Post#: 10500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 15, 2014, 7:44 am
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       [quote author=sbupatriots link=topic=249.msg10496#msg10496
       date=1397521704]
       In my two years here at SBU I've already seen a ton of momentum
       in both the social atmosphere and athletic support. With each
       class that comes in I feel there are more and more kids that are
       EXCITED to come here as I was. [/quote]
       As a frequent visitor to campus, i agree with this very much.
       Thanks for the link!  Ill take a closer read and comment...
       #Post#: 10501--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 15, 2014, 7:58 am
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       Ok thanks again for sending- i usually go to the following link
       but yours is much better:
  HTML http://www.stonybrook.edu/facilities/projects/
       
       I guess my original point was, yes, its expensive to maintain a
       grass quad with all the foot traffic but how much can that cost
       to install?  I dont believe that is not in our budget.  If UConn
       can look like UConn with a smaller budget, then possibly our
       budget is mismanaged.  Start there and worry about larger
       construction later.
       This is reassuring- the strategy is to repurpose existing space
       that no longer is necessary, or to maximize efficiency of space.
       Though, space doesnt seem to be our problem.
       Phase I- gather info.  Great, but where they go wrong is to
       gather it on their own.  Ask a student, or better yet, an
       outsider.
       Phase II- assessment.  Done, the campus needs fixing.
       Especially the Union.
       Phase III- analyze space needs.  Again, i dont think space is
       our problem.  See the maps i posted above.
       Phase IV- consider three alternatives.  Again, this is easy.
       Toss the idea that looks like a mirrored skyscraper or a prison,
       and build something that looks like the photos posted earlier.
       Of course this is all fifty cents analysis from a non-architect.
       :(  I do appreciate that there is much much more that goes into
       it.  I would just love to help them steer...
       #Post#: 10502--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: April 15, 2014, 8:03 am
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       btw, sbupatriot I'm glad you are around. We need more current
       students like you here. Let your friends now and lets build a
       bigger community. Keep up the enthusiasm, we are all Seawolves
       here!
       Btw, the same trend you are noticing in social life and athletic
       support I saw it when I was there from 2007-12. Things really
       started to take off after 2009 and I'm glad it continues to get
       better. Lets go Brook!
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